Versus the other skis on your list, the QST's don't have metal in them (except underfoot for binding retention), so they're a lot better for skiers who fit your description and application. The Kore is stiff and light, and I suspect you'll find the same "bouncing" feeling that you get from the E88. The Holyshred is somewhat lost at sea, adrift among a horde of great 98-100 mm all-mountain freestyle skis. It has a relatively soft flex pattern that will allow a skier to butter, smear, and play in all sorts of different terrain and snow conditions. Find your street shoe size on the chart, determine men's, women's, or kid's, and find the corresponding Mondo size! However, if you are looking for a charging ski that has no limitations, you would be very happy with either! Built with a blend of poplar and beech wood stringers, these skis have power to start with. Let us know if you have any other questions. Hi Cody! This ski just keeps on chugging along. SE. Ski Expert. Wir haben uns die Zeit genommen , den Gegenstand grndlich zu analyseren und zu bewerten, um Ihnen eine umfassende Summary seiner Anwendungsbereiche zu liefern. Could be powder, park, groomers, trees, or bumps, you do not care, and neither does the Camox. On the slightly lighter and more maneuverable side, I'd check out the Fischer Ranger 94 FR or the Blizzard Rustler 9--both great all-mountain skis that can hold on ice as well. The 99Ti fits better alongside skis like the Enforcer 100, Mindbender 99, and Bonafide 97 versus the 102's similarities with some the wider skis of its group. Can you help? I'm 5'9" 150lbs, most of my skiing is in the East, Tremblant, Stowe, Sugar Bush, Holiday Valley and the mini hills near Toronto when the kids are in ski school. Id like something good for about 60/40 on/off trail. You want something stiff, but not overpowering that you can ski on all day, any day. They're all pretty maneuverable, and if you didn't like the metallic nature of the M5, you'll probably like these more. I am (6', 205 53 year old), have been skiing off an on for 45 yrs. Because it's lighter, it will get deflected more than heavier skis. When skiing this amazingly versatile and competent ski, it becomes apparent that it really likes to finish the turns strongly and with a lot of energy. While carbon doesnt quite have the same type of flex pattern or energy damping properties as titanal, it does have a bunch of energy built in, allowing it to be a great material that does a bulk of the heavy lifting. What binding would you recommend? It's versatile and playful and loves to hop and jump around, but you can also ski pretty darn aggressively and fast on it and it really doesn't become unstable. Also, how would you compare the DPS Phantom 2.0 to a good glide wax put on by a very experienced race ski tuner? I think you'd find the QST a lot of fun, but maybe limiting, especially given what you've been on for five years. I used to be expert and haven't skied a lot the last few years. Im in the market for a one ski quiver. I tried out the blizzard bonafides last year and loved them in comparison to my chronics. Looking for Some Guidance? But I still want something so that I can be aggressive / ski off-piste crud and powder when I want. I tend to avoid mogul runs. SE. You folks offer an impeccable and generous service. SE. Maneuverable in soft snow, holds an edge on firm snow, it's a very versatile ski. Hi Dave! Hi Christophe! Hope that helps! or Best Offer. models that really started/re-started this ~100mm all-mountain ski evolution, and it retains a lot of qualities that make it relevant to this day. Between the Enforcer and Mantra, the Volkl has more of an on-trail and carving personality while the Enforcer has some freeride tendencies for softer snow and crud. I really like the versatility/profile of the enforcer 100, but I'm worried about all the weight. Have fun! I typically, however, recommend it for lighter weight skier more than skiers your size. I've heard some great things about the Salomon qts 99 and 106(an all mountain ski with an freeride feel to it). We had a lot of fun in the trees with these skis, as the HRZN tech in the tips combines with that cap build to make it agile and swift while remaining stable and powerful on more groomed terrain. Getting down to the final few candidates but curious on your advice to make a final decision. A new addition to the Bent family, the 110 is the long awaited ski that bridges the gap between the 120 and 100. SE. If you're looking for a lighter ski that has a lot of different benefits, this is a great one. Please note: We are unable to mount Look Pivot bindings because the actual boot is required due to the extremely small amount of adjustment in the heel. As a replacement for the Menace 98, the M-Free 99 borrows more from the wider M-Free 108 than its outgoing twin-tip brethren. This gives it a great feel on firm snow as you get full length edge contact, however the M5 Mantra is impressively maneuverable in softer snow conditions as well. If you like skiing very fast in wide-open spaces, regardless of snow conditions, then these are the skis for you. Because it uses so much rocker and because it's fairly light, it skis a little short. The Vantage 97 Ti shares a relatively similar shape to the Bonafide and M5 Mantra, but its construction is much more focused on weight savings than anything we've looked at so far. The Dynastar M-Pro 99 has a unique build and shape to it that sets it apart from other skis on this list, and its interesting both hand-flexing it and looking at the profile of the ski as it sits on the wall. Taking design input from pro freerider, Chris Benchetler, Atomic has created a pow-skiing masterpiece capable of turning the mountain into your playground. SE. The result is a "boost" in the ski's power and stability, but the overall feel of the QST 99 stays more or less the same. You can also wax on top of the Phantomed skis for added glide. I like the bumps but am also looking for a wide enough waist to do some powder without having to change skis. It's got a great blend of materials that really give the skis a good amount of power and strength. High-speed skiers who love a challenge, whether its terrain or snow conditions. The Bent Chetler 100 has developed a great following over the years, and for good reason. Twice as good as snowboarding, obviously, as we have twice the number of edges. Let us know if you have any other questions! The Enforcer is the most all-mountain and versatile ski of the lot. Hey SE, great article. For comparison, I'm pretty much exactly your size and like both these skis in the 180 cm length. These skis aren't listed from best to worst, we don't believe that a certain ski is just downright better than any other ski. Who it's For: You want a lightweight ski, but you don't want to sacrifice power, stability, and overall stiffness. I sometime borrow my sons Salomon X-Drive 8.0 Ti. No worries, our owner's name is David, so we'll just pretend that what you meant I found the M5, precise and easy to bend into shorter carving turns but lacking float due to the shallower rocker profiles. Atomic Bent Chetler 100 Skis 188 | 2023 Powder/All Mountain Skis. I'm looking for a lighter more fun ski that won't tire me out a fast but yet still hold an edge for a guy my size. Great, you guys are awesome. Perhaps you don't get the same preference to finish a carving turn as with the MX 99. We felt the 99 fits better with the "All-Mountain" moniker a bit better than the 102, which leans more to the "Freeride" side of the spectrum. It's all about compromise, right? The flex pattern is also one of the softest in this category, which really boosts the ski's forgiveness in variable snow conditions and tricky terrain. A bit beefier wood used for 2020, but it's not really that noticeable. Im also looking for something a little less demanding than the RTM 84 - I love the ski, but it can be unforgiving. From about the mid-body forward, the carbon nose starts as a central spine and widens to full-width in the shovel and tip. The Bent Chetler 100 is another twin tip ski with a focus on soft snow performance. Required fields are marked *. Have fun! The two skis Ive narrowed it down to are the Enforcer 100 in 185 and Mantra M5 in 177. I'm currently on Dynastar Contact 10ST at 174cm, so ready for change. I do like to carve some turns occasionally but not at high speeds. Hi SE, Thanks! Youve made it to the next level in skiing. Looking for your thoughts on those as well. Be prepared for burly and strong performance overall. I'm looking for some advice - I bought my first pair of skis 5 seasons ago as a low-intermediate. I'm looking for something that can handle both hard and soft snow well, but not looking for something on either end of the spectrum. This is what used to be referred to as Expert until rocker skis came along and let experts go back to over head ski lengths. Don't hesitate to give us a call at (877) 812-6710 and let us help you. While most skis out there have a speed limit, these have a speed minimum. Similarly, Volkl's Blaze 94 and 106 are roughly the same split--offering light touring weight and high performance. The boot sole length is the literal length from toe to heel of that boot, measured in millimeters. Thanks! Adam in Toronto, Hi Adam! The Ripstick 96 is another interesting option, with a strong on-piste as well as versatile personality. $250.00 shipping. The QST is an absolute blast in moguls and trees. So I snagged them. SE. If you're just on the groomers, that's not a big deal, but it sounds like you're having fun in the woods, and that's where maneuverability really matters. What do you think about those for my needs? Have fun! Sometimes, I'm also doing the exposed, steep and icy kind of slopes, so I like having reliable edges when I need them. Carve, float, pivot and smear. Each of these skis offers their own unique set of attributes, performance characteristics, and overall feel. I felt like an Olympian (again in comparison) out there in the moguls, trees, and turns in general. Thinking 100 under foot but maybe thats the problem. Hi Kovi! Black diamond, double black diamond, centuple black diamond, it doesnt even matter. Furthermore, would the only downside of the enforcers - for my type of use - be the weight or do they also perform less well off piste? For classic or touring poles, the correct size pole should reach your armpit. I was skiing a few years old Liberty Origin 106 176 cm which I like but wanted something that ripped groomers better without all the tip chatter but was also good in bumps, trees and something I could tour in. I think unfortunately I have a pretty big list of skies that I am trying to narrow down and so am looking for a recommendation. All use some metal, but are also way more playful than the Mantra in soft snow. But once you find the sweet spot, you'll be hooked! Check the charts below to see which size you need. Do you have any suggestions what to look for or to buy? Then skis got wider. Performs really well on firm snow, but is also fairly capable in soft snow. Are there any other skis other than the ones I've already looked at worth taking into consideration? Thinking about going a little bit wider with the next skis to get better off-piste performance. Currently skiing the 2017 Brahma in 187 (from you all of course). If youre truly an expert skier, you probably know it. This little bump out in the tail gives the ski a surprising amount of energy at the end of the turn, making the Declivity remarkably agile in linked carving turns. Your boot sole length is the actual length of your ski boot, in millimeters. Check out the Blizzard Rustler 10. It uses some of the longest rocker in this comparison article, especially in the tip. This is one of those skis that could double as a terrain park ski, but that doesn't mean you have to spend time in the park to enjoy it. Thanks, Charibancho! I have narrowed my choices down to the k2 mindbended 99 ti or the Fischer ranger 102 both at 177. Maybe you spend a little time in the terrain park, but don't want to be limited by a narrower ski. This is what used to be referred to as Expert until rocker skis came along and let experts go back to over head ski lengths. Swerve-masters and jibsters all over the world. Using Salomons construction techniques involving their Metal Twin Frame, these skis benefit from two sheets of titanal, with windows open in the forebody and the tail. The Line Sick Day 104 is definitely more directional, and they ski a bit short for the stated length. I think I am understanding that I am less concerned about ripping down groomers, although fun, and more interested in a ski that will be fun and more manageable in the trees, bumps and lighter for uphill touring. It comes in a 187, and I don't think you'll overski it like the Pinnacle. I am looking for a ski that will progress with me as I push my skill level further between more off trail runs and improving on my mogul riding. Regarding the QST 92, do you recommend the 177 cm or the 185 cm length? I like them but they seem a bit light and chatter in harder pack snow. I'm in western Canada, so I ski Banff, Lake Louise, Kicking Horse. Sidecut extending beyond the rocker is one of those things that they keep talking about that doesnt really make a lot of sense until you ski it and realize what a precise and fun-loving ski this is. Use: This is a question thats most relevant to advanced or expert skiers: Where are you skiing? I still ski on a 1998 Salomon Super Force 92S in a 203 from time to time, so I'm right there with you. I'm aggressive on-piste and more moderate off-piste, especially in narrower chutes and trees. Well, I guess we are. Also, I'm trying to teach my 5 and 3 yo kids to ski so I'm in need of some maneuverability. I felt the origin to be too soft and the rustler was great but I'm definitely looking for something more in the 100mm width category. I appreciate fun/quick maneuverability, lightweight, but also carving ability especially in the east. Great reviews as always! The Enforcer was smooth and quick edge to edge with decent float but not super stable at high speeds and the Kore 105 was fun with good float although lacking true carving ability on firm snow and was easily deflected in chop. ago I own both. Looking for an all mountain powder capable ski(no park) and something that can handle the icy east coast. Are you not considering the Mantra in the 184? I'm looking for an all-mountain ski in the 100mm waist range. You could go closer to 180 if you want to, but probably not necessary. The Enforcer 100 or the Ranger 102, on the other hand, both feel like great choices. Built with Atomics HRZN tech in the tips and tails, this ski does float better than a lot of other 100s, allowing skiers the flexibility to use this in the park, pipe, woods, bumps, groomers, or bowls. Eric, Hi Eric! During the storm cycle around Christmas 2021, I skied a lot of fairly deep powder on the front sides and the QSTs didn't perform as well as I would like. If you're looking at two pairs, then I definitely think the 99 is a good option for your wider ski. I'm not a super charger who likes to go really fast all the time, but I enjoy pushing it hard a couple of turns. This one should get more credit. I just imagine the M5 would feel like a lot of ski when skiing slowly, and it's also not the most maneuverable ski in trees. I'm an intermediate skier, looking for that elusive 1-quiver. The flex pattern and shape of the Pinnacle 95 Ti give it really good performance in soft snow. For your light option, go with the Rustler, but if you're looking to go a bit heavier (again, not much), I'm a Pinnacle 105 fan. The Blizzard Rustler 9 is also in that area, but is more like the Pinnacle than the Rossignol. The Blizzard Rustler 10 is the natural progression from the Regulators. What would you suggest? Hi Jon! The all-new Atomic Maverick 100 Ti is a strong and powerful ski that takes over where the Vantage series of skis left off. Their AirTec core sheds even more weight by removing strips of material, which is then supported by a titanium laminate. Think of it as a shoe size, like a "size 11" for example. Hey guys, What do you think would be a good fit? Playful skiers who want something equally at home during trick time as it is in the backcountry. If you thought the 177 was demanding, it will be magnified in the 184. I also like to ski in switch and do some 180s and 360s and some silly stuff like butters occasionally(not looking for an insane twin tip or super wide ski that will give me an hard time at the cabin lifts). Turns will be slow and steady, and at the end of your time as a beginner, youll be starting to tip your skis to turn rather than pushing yourself to turn with your heels. Hi Joe D! While its not the best floater on this list, its strengths lie more in the charging through crud and chop. Hope that helps! The name indicates as much, with the ability to Blend the park and the mountain into one gigantic playground. Carbon is a pretty stiff material, and the way that Fischer uses it in this ski is pretty interesting. SE. I am an advanced skier @ 6' and 175lb and live in the Midwest, so the typical conditions that I see are hardpack to icy, with occasional soft snow. sorrycan't edit posts here. The Rustler 10, in my opinion, starts to feel like more of a freeride ski. Thanks again! Im a level 2 IASI ski instructor aged 22 weighing 90kg. You'll get more stability at speed than the QST 92, but the turned up tail also allows for easier short/slow turns. That said, you might not get the same "playful" feeling from the E100 in the softer snow, so it's a bit of a tradeoff. I love the trees and the crud and attacking a line and avoid skiing on ice days. I am a stocky 5'10" at 215 lbs. If you want to see the 2022 version of these skis in action, check out the video below by Curated Experts for more information. I'm wondering if you can help me decide between the QST 98 and the Bent Chetler 100. This has led me to start looking for something else. I know r/skiing loves both of the Bent Chetler skis, but I really haven't ever found either are that exceptional. For that dual-coast one-ski quiver, the 95-100 underfoot range is pretty awesome. I don't think you're too big for the 181 cm length by any means, but if you really felt like the 181 cm 106 felt short, you could size up. Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. Ive heard really good things about the enforcer and it sounds just like what Im after Im just slightly worried whether itll be too much of a change from the sky 7s? 172's with the marker bindings. I am super-impressed with the versatility of that ski from moguls to trees and groomers and powder. This gives the 102 more stability and power in a carved turn as well as a bit better flotation in fresh snow. The fact that they're 2mm narrower at the waist seems like a step back from what I have. Looking for 1 quiver ski as the 15 bonifides served that purpose well for me east or west fast or deep powder. Both of these are a bit more user-friendly than Enforcer but still a total blast. Instead of fitting the ski by height, the skis that we carry are fit by weight. I demoed the Salomon QST 99 in the 188 length last weekend and really enjoyed them. With art and build design by ski legend Chris Benchetler and the Atomic Freeski team, this all-mountain ski is a slimmed-down version of the award-winning signature model, the Bent Chetler 120. And I have to say that I fell in love with those skies, I've never skied so fast on and off piste. I would be forever grateful for any insights or recommendations you can provide regarding my selections for a pair of skis, and their respective lengths, that will best suit my goal of improving my skills all over the mountain. Size up for true power and strength. Thanks a lot I appreciate your insight. Imperfections in the snow surface won't affect the performance of the Rustler 10 as much as a ski with stiffer tips and tails. What would be the pros and cons of each, relative to each other and maybe more importantly relative to the Enforcer 100 (which I still will ski)? Any help is much appreciated. I'm really torn between the Bent Chetler 100 (180cm) and the Sick Day 104 (179 or 186cm) for a 50/50 one ski quiver mounted with Shifts to be used mostly in the French Alps. The Kore (93 I'd recommend for you) is light but stiff. Its killing my race skis(and me) to go off piste and am looking for something that will bring a smile to my face while still providing a solid platform. Have decided to invest in 100mm ski. For real powder days, I'd demo something meant to handle powder. For length, in either ski, I would go right around 180 cm. But I'm not sure I love them -- you described their feel as 'surfy' which makes sense. If you need to find your BSL, but would still like to submit your order, please enter "I will provide" in the Sole Length box and we will hold your order for mounting. What would your recommend? Similar, though, to the K2, this Salomon also likes to be used in more of a hard-charging and straight-lining format. Hi Chase! I think you're a 185/184 skier for the most part except for family time, but then they'll just be on the heavy side. Which of the lighter skis on this list would have the same versatility, smear-ability, and maybe be a little more nimble if I'm willing to forego a bit of dampness and charging of the E100? Skill wise, youll be able to control your speed with snowplowing, wedging, or forming a pizza. Hope that helps! And in terms of sizing, your range sounds good, probably look to the high-170's if you can. Its telling of a company whose widest ski is 102 mm underfoot, that they value precision and quality in an all-mountain format. Keep in mind that you will have to change your style and adapt a bit and be ready for a "softer" ski flex on most freeride skis compared to a narrow waisted ski with metal in its core. I have little to compare to other than a dedicated onpiste type ski like the Volkl RTM models. I'm definitely more of an aggressive skier (want a confidence inspiring ski when testing the speed limit), but also want something versatile and playful to hop and jump around on, as I'm always looking for natural features to hit. Now I'm confused, I'm looking for a ski like the Kore that will absorb the big blows in chopped up snow, vs throwing me. I'm 6 ft tall and 215 pounds. With a fantastic blend of flex and energy, the M-Free 99 can do it all for you at a very high level. Aggressive skiers who spend most of their time on-trail. I want to find a pair of skis thats comfortable for an intermediate but that will continue to grow with me as I advance to more technical terrain. Please keep in mind that ski boots DO NOT come in half-sizes. Ex-racers certainly appreciate the metal construction of the Nordica, and you'll learn how to make it more playful. I live in Virginia and primarily ski at Snowshoe WV. Enjoy fast ripping on groomers and something a little playful and manageable in trees and bumps. I'd go 177. Atomic Bent Chetler 100s vs. Salomon QST 99 I'm on the search for some all mountain skis to fill the void of not skiing during the summer months. I'm a fairly big guy 6'2" about 210lbs depending on the apre the night before. I'm 6'4" and about 200 lbs, and currently I have the 2016 Vantage 90 CTi in 184 cm with about 70 ski days on them. Thanks so much for any advice you can offer! Add two sheets of metal and two fiberglass laminates to the mix, and youve got a great deal of power and energy in the ski. Overall, you'll find more similarities than differences between these three. Check out the Rossignol Experience 94 and the K2 Pinnacle 95 for comparison. For length, the 174 cm QST 99 feels about right, or the 172 Ranger 98. If you know youre not an Intermediate skier still, but arent quite confident enough to call yourself an expert, then chances are this is you. Thanks for the great reviews. Thanks, These zones are filled with Salomons C/FX material to lighten and soften the blow a little bit, making the skis marginally more approachable for the everyday skier. I'm 6', 165lbs without gear. Terrain mostly 70% off piste and 30% on. However, I think I would prefer a ski in the 98-102 range. Maybe a Tyrolia 13 or Warden 13 would be an alternative. 19-meters in the turn shape, these skis can handle some pretty darn high speeds, while the tapered shape and rocker profile do just fine in softer snow. You can use them most days when the snow is soft. I am skiing in big sky and have a pair of Brahma 88s for hardpack days. Do you think this would be an appropriate ski for me? Which length would you recommend: 1.77 or 1.84? Bent 100 Skis. Hope that helps! The QST 99 is quick, playful, and responsive. Youre likely still pretty cautious in regards to your speed, but are able to stop on demand and have a bit more confidence that youll make it to the bottom in one piece. 2021 Atomic Bent Chetler Junior Skis w/ Salomon N L7 Bindings | AA0028224K. I never took a ski lesson in my life, so am probably not the best technical skier. It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. Tester - George Michaelsen 5. Built with a light wood core and Stocklis Titec Pro metal topsheet, these things are true Stocklis--worthy of the praise and price for dedicated all-mountain skiers. Because of this, we often refer to it as a skiers ski as it does require input and steering to get it to turn. And should I stay around 90 or go with 100? SE, How would you compare the M Free 99 to the Bent Chetler 100 and the Camex? I ski a variety of terrain, and Im looking for something I can take into bumps or trees, but that can also hold their own if I happen to luck into a powder day while on a trip out west. Hope that helps! Welcome back to skiing! A proper fitting boot is a key piece of equipment to take your skiing to the next level. I'd stick to something with metal in it, so the Bent Chetler might not be the best option. However I've grown tired of groomers and like to challenge myself some more. Have fun! Sometimes you just need to speak to a expert, so if you're still having trouble picking a size, please give us a call at (877) 812-6710. Any ways, I am looking for some help, guidance and/or opinion on what I should focus on. I need to find a demo. However, I'm having a rough time in deep tracked powder and crud, which I know these skis aren't ideal for. Part of what makes the QST so fun is the blend of power and maneuverability, and I would worry a little bit that the 188 cm would take away some of that. It's not an exceptionally forgiving all mountain ski for most skiers, but it has that high level of power, vibration damping, and stability that comes along with that much metal. While youll still need a final adjustment done before you can ski, providing us with your boot sole length is absolutely crucial if youd like us to send your skis pre-mounted with your bindings. Generally in resort, off-piste terrain. They were very maneuverable and fun, but not great on the hard chargers. I have a connection that can get me any Armada ski at a discount, but wondering whether something like the Rustler 10s would be a better ski for me than the Tracer 98s? Atomic removes a serious amount of material from the center of the ski, which really brings the overall weight down. While they've served me well, I feel I've outgrown them. Like the Ranger 99, the Kore gets narrower underfoot as the sizes decrease below 177 (and slightly wider in the 184 and 191), so take that into account in your decision-making process. These skis seem super similar, anyone tried both and have any thoughts? Any help would be great . That gives the Enforcer 100 excellent vibration damping and stability, but because the metal is thinner it softens up the flex a little bit from tip to tail. . Because of its stiffness, you should be at a relatively high ability level, it's a ski that rewards good technique. Let me know if you have any thoughts or advice, and keep up the good work! From nose blocks and butters to tail stands and nollies, these skis are built and shaped to handle the most creative freestyle ski minds on the planet.