These were difficult to manufacture (only 90,000 had been produced by 1869) and of course proved to be obsolete even as they were being adopted. A diuym had been established as being equal to an English inch by Peter the Great, thus a liniya was 1/10, and six liniya was 6/10 or .60 caliber. Case: Straight-rimmed center-fire brass case loaded with 5.07 grams of black powder. Krnka rifle, both the Infantry ( ) and the Marksmans ( ) versions M1869: Infantry - 200 paces (142 m; 156 yds) to 600 paces (428 m; 467 yards). Russian markings and inspectors marks appear multiple places on the receiver as well as on the top flat of the breech block. In 1856, the Russians adopted their first rifled long arm of reduced bore for general issue to the infantry, the. Contemporary drawing of the M1867 Russian Baranov rifle. The photos should do a good job of depicting the condition of the stock. WebThe new Model 1857 had a 4.62-inch diameter of bore. Unfortunately by this time the Berdan series of rifles was well established and further development of the Krnka was abandoned. Even as to Russian produced rifles, the armories also bought locks and other parts from other sources which may account for different markings. The most obvious lesson of the American Civil War was that the percussion muzzleloading musket was obsolete and that breechloading metallic cartridge arms were the new standard on the modern battlefield. WebThe M1867 Russian Krnka. Add to My Saved Parts. Peter the Greats rule, from 1696 until his death in 1725, was a great turning point in Russia when, by virtue of Peters reforms, a strong trend of European influence developed, gradually replacing the earlier influence of Byzantium and the Tartars. Like so many other early conversion rifles, the transformation was carried out by cutting off and threading the back of the barrel and screwing on a receiver, (in the case of the Russian model; the receiver being bronze) fitted with a steel breech block containing the firing pin. Unlike much of Europe (but similarly to the United States) Russia never adopted a repeating black powder cartridge rifle, transitioning directly from theM1870 Berdan IIto the well designed and long-lived M1891 smokeless powder Mosin-Nagant. WebModel 1853 Enfield rifle musket. About its production, packaging and combat distribution to units. This was specifically a result of the disbelief of the authorities in the infantryman's ability to hit targets at a long distance. The Infantry and Marksmans rifles are virtually, The cleaning rods of the underlying rifles were retained by being locked in place at the shoulder in a manner, for example, identical to that of the, Side view of the shoulder-locking 6-Line/Krnka cleaning rod. A steel bullet at 1000 steps was able to pierce 2.5 bags of earth and one bag at 1500 steps. Revised August 24, 2003, Copyright 1997-2023 Keith Doyon & Josh Underkofler. 1876 Photo Credit: Coincidentally, during the joint development with Hiram Berdan of what would become the. Eligible for FREE shipping * Lockplate, Stripped. Today. . The pre-war .44-cal. Like the earlier Russian M1828 and M1839 flintlock muskets, the new percussion M1845 drew heavily on French influences and bore a strong resemblance to the French M1842 Musket, down to the adoption of the back action lock, foregoing the forward action lock that remained standard in the United States, Great Britain and most of Europe, with the exceptions of France and Belgium. Photos Credit:www.jjmilitaryantiques.com. During the mid-19th century the Izhevesk arsenal emerged as the premier Russian arms manufactory and by the second half of that century was producing the finest quality arms in the empire. Four distinct examples of Russian 6-Line muzzle-loading rifles entered Russian army service after the Crimean War. The stock shows several grain cracks, including a pair that run through the bottom of the action diagonally, emanating from the triggerguard area, a diagonal crack along the counterpane and a tight grain crack behind the breech tang. This number was only the serial number of the breech assembly. In particular, it was distinguished by a very strong bolt group - a similar design was used in the. ( ) was a breech loading conversion of the muzzle-loading Model 1857 Six Line rifle musket designed by Czech arms maker, Sylvester Krnka. The parent rifles' serial numbers are usually found on the side of the barrels near the breech, but may be located on either side of the barrel. Eligible for FREE shipping *. The M1867 Russian Krnka ( ) was a breech loading conversion of the muzzle-loading Model 1857 Six Line rifle musket designed by Czech arms maker, Sylvester Krnka. The ramrod of the new Six Line Rifle Musket was swelled with a profile that was similar to the Austrian M1854 Lorenz rifle musket ramrod, with a tulip shaped head that included a torque hole, very much like its Austrian counterpart. The metal shows even pinpricking and light pitting over most of the iron and steel surfaces, and the barrel and bands have a medium pewter gray patina with a thinly oxidized layer of brownish patina over this gray color along with a few patches of scattered oxidized discoloration. The brass buttstock is shaped differently from that of the long rifles and has a only a very minimal buttstock tang. The Krnka Dragoon rifle is easily and at once the most distinctive of the Russian Krnka conversions. I dont know when you will find another complete, matching numbered example for sale again, and for such a reasonable price, so dont miss your chance to add this rare Russian rifle to your collection. Apr 3, 2020 - Miller Conversion of a Model 1861 Rifle-Musket. When firing at a 3-Lines armor plate (a "line is 1/10 of an inch, 7.62-mm, or .30 calibre) from a distance of 1200 steps (853 meters), all bullets pierced it through. M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Credit:https://naukatehnika.com/russkaya-vintovka-sistemyi-krnka.html, M1858/69 Russian Krnka Infantry rifle ( )- Photo Courtesy ofadamsguns.com. Most of the conversion to Krnka work was carried out the Ludwig Nobel St. Petersburg Machine-Building Plant from 1869 into the early 1870s, while some work was done producing newly constructed M1869 Krnka rifles at the Izhevsk Arms Plant while the Russians struggled to get production going of the just-adopted Berdan II rifle. Overall this is a solid, complete and attractive example of an extremely rare. We believe that to be unlikely. Watch. condition, particularly for a 19th century Russian military long arm. These would be the mainstay of the Russian military until the adoption of the Model 1891 Mosin-Nagant Rifle. All appear solid and unlikely to worsen with normal handling and storage but would likely worsen with rough treatment or under the stress of recoil if the gun was to be shot. Some sources claim that the conversions were carried out at Ludwig Nobel St. Petersburg Machine-Building Plant from 1869 into the early 1870s while other sources state that the conversions to the M1867 series Krnkas were all carried out at the Tula armory from 1870 to about 1875. There were no ballistic differences between these rifles, only the military authorities' beliefs in the ability of various soldiers to hit their targets at longer ranges! Conversions were carried out at 28 1/2 inch barrel with adjustable rear sight and marked at the breech with All of them had a caliber of 6 lines (a line is 1/10th of an inch, a 6-line rifle is thus 15.24 mm), reduced from 7 Lines (.70 calibre), Russia's previous infantry rifle: 1) The M1856 Marksmans Rifle ( 1856 ., sometimes translated to English as strelkovaya vintovka, "sharpshooter's rifle.") This is one of the scarcest guns that I have had the pleasure to offer for sale and a particularly intriguing example of a mid-19th century cartridge alteration of a Russian percussion musket. These first two were a long, generally issued infantry and marksmans or sharpshooters rifle mounting three screw-retained barrel bands, and possibly a shorter, also three-band, Dragoon rifle. Shipping Info Buyer's Premium The references to the Krnka meanings are below his letter. Evidence of the strength and survivability of the Krnka system can be seen in that, similarly to the fate of the French Tabatire series of rifles, many Krnkas which were removed from service subsequently saw new lives by being converted to civilian smooth-bore shotguns firing black powder shotgun ammunition, and continued in use among commercial hunters even into the middle of the 20th century. In early wars with the Turks, Russia gained a firm foothold on the Black Sea for the first time. The two rear sight leaves found on Krnkas are are the short (35 mm; 1.4-inch) elevating leaf correctly found on the full-length Krnka M1858/69 Infantry rifle, and the longer 70 mm (2.7 in) leaf found on the Krnka M1856/69 Marksmans rifle. The new M1856 Rifle Musket was 53 in overall length with a 37 long, .60 caliber barrel that was rifled with four grooves with a relatively slow rate of twist of about 1:49, or of a turn in the length of the barrel. For example, Russian 6-line rifles were made by the Birmingham Small Arms Company evidenced by lockplate markings as well as the BSA trademark bow and arrow markings on various other parts of the rifle. The so-called "fortress guns" over time were quite widely used to defeat manpower behind shelters and protective structures. The rifle is now in firing position. As the Ottoman empire was breaking up, France, Great Britain and Russia all had interests in its territories. )/66 Krnka) for conversion of a breechloader. WebWinchester rifle is a comprehensive term describing a series of lever-action repeating rifles manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company. The two primary rifles of the infantry were the M1856/69 "Marksman" rifle converted from the earlier M1856 6-Line rifles and identified by its long-leaf rear sight, and the M1858/69 "Infantry" rifle converted from the stocks of M1858 6-Line rifles, having shorter rear sight leaves. Photo Credit:https://guns.allzip. Web0.54 in (14 mm) Action. The 35mm long rear sight of the 1867 Krnka Infantry Rifle. 4) The M1860 Cossack Rifle ( 1860 .) The Krnka is an important part in the story of Russian military arms as it provides a stopping point for the collector of Russian flint and percussion arms and a starting point for the collector of Russian cartridge arms. Technical and financial considerations prevailed and the Commission gave preference to the Krnka system. SHORT RIFLES, CARBINES & SPECIAL VERSIONS, M185(9)/69 Krnka Dragoon Rifle( 1859?/69 .). It is unknown where the modification from 6-Line rifle to Krnka may have taken place but many, if not most such modifications were undertaken at the Ludwig Nobel St. Petersburg Machine-Building Plant. Four systems were considered, those of Terssen, Albini, Baranov (substantially a license-produced Albini) and Krnka. at a length of 1340 mm, barrel of 939 mm and weight of 4.4 kg. The stock shows some scattered bumps, dings and handling marks; all typical of a military long arm, as well as some minor slivering along the forend and ramrod channel. This rifle was fitted with a long-leaf rear sight calibrated to 1200 steps (853 m); M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Courtesy:https://naukatehnika.com/russkaya-vintovka-sistemyi-krnka.html. By late 1856, a 6-line muzzle-loading rifle was developed, its design based on the predecessor Russian 7-Line percussion smooth-bore gun. As noted the M1856/67 Rifle remains in VERY GOOD condition. The neck of the bayonet has an oval cross-section. The M1867 Russian Krnka ( ) was a breech loading conversion of the muzzle-loading Model 1857 Six Line rifle musket designed by Austro The Krnka is identified by its large (15mm+) caliber barrel with barlycorn front sight, simple brass nosecap, its tall, flat, perpendicular-head hammer, bronze receiver with iron breech opening to the left, a back-action lock mechanism, a brass trigger guard with iron trigger guard tang and finger spur, and brass buttplate. Like the earlier flintlock muskets, the M1845 was a large bore (nominally .71 caliber) smoothbore, single shot muzzleloading long arm. It has a conventional 6-Line rifle brass nose cap but the stock is fixed only with two very thin barrel bands, the upper being only friction held and the lower being spring retained. of the same overall length, same barrel length, same weight and ballistic performance as the M1856, except that it was fitted with a short-leaf rear sight calibrated only for 600 steps (427 m) and intended for "regular" line infantry; 3) The M1859 Dragoon Rifle ( 1859 .) The rifle is known most often as the Berdan I. above. Still, following that war, substantial numbers of Russian Krnkas of all varieties were transferred to the newly restored Bulgarian army, which is how they wound up participating in the Serbian-Bulgarian War of 1885 and even the Balkans War of 1912-1913! The nickname was derived from the caliber of the gun and the Russian unit of measure, the liniya, which was 1/10 of a diuym. Note the octagonal coupling fitted between the barrel and receiver of these correct Russian Dragoon Krnkas. It was adopted by the Russian Empire in 1869, and was similar to the contemporary Snider-Enfield and Tabatiere conversions. Another Liege-built M1856 6-Line rifle converted to Krnka, this example manufactured and marked by Beuret Frres (Beuret Brothers), Liege 186(?). It was Krnka, and not the, In February of 1869 it was proposed that the conversions to the Carl system be halted and that conversions to a metallic cartridge be substituted. Blank, school and combat cartridge modifications. It is full-length and fully threaded at the end. It was also clear that a new reduced caliber design was the wave of the future. While the Russians considered the British Boxer cartridge adopted for the Snider, its coiled brass case was much more delicate than the drawn brass of the Berdan cartridge. Bulgaria: The Russian Krnka rifles were also supplied by Russia to, and adopted by, Bulgaria and Serbia, at the time vassel states of Russia. Photo Credit: https://naukatehnika.com/russkaya-vintovka-sistemyi-krnka.html, http://www.islin-ovko.ru/e/269-o-kazachey-vintovke-zamolvite-slovo, https://cornet.cc/ru/artikul/123916/russkaia-skorostrelnaia-6-lineinaia-vintovka-obr-1869-g-sist-krnka/, http://zonwar.ru/news5/news_986_Rifle_Gana-1876.html, https://www.catawiki.com/en/l/23768575-russia-sylvestr-krnka-model-1857-single-shot-percussion-musket-15-2mm. Katalog, Makovskaja L[ila] K[onstantinovna], Moskva: Voennoe Izdatel'stvo, 1990, 1994, Page started March 10, 1999 The Model 700 bolt-action's accuracy and dependability remain legendary more than 50 years since it was unveiled. WebThis musket is a Lige (Belgium) made gun, a copy of a French Model 1857 Rifle Musket. In this case, the elite-and light units will have the Mini rifled musket, while normal line infantry will have the model 1757 smoothbore Explore. Please let me know!! Like most all of the large caliber, stop-gap rifle conversions of the late 1860s, the Krnkas became obsolete quite quickly. .577 caliber Carried by: Sterling E. Lucas Co. H (Warren Volunteers), 21 Regt. For any collector who specializes in the Russian long arms of the cartridge period, this is the gun that you must have as the initial example in the collection. I. , 1938. Product #: 1940170. In August, 1869, the Krnka Dragoon rifle was approved and these were effectuated by re-converting the Terri-Norman converted rifles to Krnka systems, thus unlike the Carl system rifles, none of the former ever went into service or distribution. In this drawing the rifle is shown with a long rear sight leaf. The Russians looked at the various systems that had been adopted, and were in development, and chose a hinged breech alteration based upon the design of Czech arms designer Sylvester Krnka. Eligible for FREE shipping *. Very quickly thereafter the Russians adopted the M1870 Berdan II bolt action rifle. It was also clear that a new reduced caliber design was the wave of the future. WebFrench Model 1857 Percussion Rifle-Musket Made at Liege. 1857 Dated Antique SPRINGFIELD 1855 Rifle Musket - Guns I received the following letter from Mr. Ilija Stanislevik who was kind enough to translate certain Russian inscriptions for me. All appear solid and unlikely to worsen with normal handling and storage but would likely worsen with rough treatment or under the stress of recoil if the gun was to be shot. Round barrel measures approximately 40 , is the standard (French) .69/.70 caliber, See Auction Information for full details." See, During the Turkish hostilities the infantry regiments of the Russian army were armed with an assortment of rifles, even including muzzle-loading M1854 to M1860 6-Line rifles, but were primarily armed with Krnka rifles. Three years later, when Bulgaria entered the First World War, 12,800 stand of Krnkas remained in Bulgarian service and many were issued even then to rear echelon troops. Since Colt no longer had a manufacturing facility, he contracted with Eli Whitney of Whitneyville, Connecticut, to produce these guns. . hollow-base Mini bullet. . This M1858 It was found that the gun effectively pierced the armor of German and Austrian armored cars, predating the 1918 Mauser 13.2mm T-Gewehr anti-tank gun used against the first British tanks. Only the above three rifles were converted by the Russians into the Krnka system. It has no sling swivels but rather ferrule reinforced slots half-way up the forestock and through the buttstock. Dropping the cleaning rod down the barrel solves the problem, but the head needs to be flat in order to hit the firing pin. Unfortunately, this is the best that I was able to do given the age and wear of the rifle's buttstock. The obverse butt is stamped with two illegible cartouches, the weakest likely the original percussion production cartouche and the slightly more legible one the mark applied after the alteration. The metal of the gun has been lightly cleaned, weakening some of the markings, although they remain mostly legible throughout. Unfortunately, revolutionary pressure continued to build and in 1881 Alexander II was killed by a terrorist bomb in the center of St. Petersburg. M1856/69 Russian Krnka Marksman rifle ( ) Photo Courtesy: The nearly identical M1858 Infantry Rifle, We have been wholly unable to find any photo or drawing of the The M1859 Dragoon Rifle (. The Russians only ever converted their 6-Line rifles to the three models of Krnkas referenced above, the M1856/69 Krnka Marksman (or sharpshooter) rifle, the M1858 Infantry rifle and the M185(? 1876 Photo Credit:http://zonwar.ru/news5/news_986_Rifle_Gana-1876.html, Other M1869 Krnka Short rifles and Carbines. . Muzzle-loaded. Today, all 19th century Russian military arms are extremely scarce, as two World Wars saw most obsolete arms destroyed in scrap drives to create more modern munitions. View Item in Catalog Lot #811 (Sale Order: 811 of 952) Sold for: $375.00 to onsite "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium not included. Lockplate Complete w/ Hammer, 1857/69 Carbine. The bore of the rifle remains in VERY GOOD condition as well. It was adopted by the Russian Empire in 1869, and was similar to the contemporary Snider-Enfield and Tabatiere conversions. Because upwards of 600,000 conversions would have needed to have been undertaken, it is entirely possible that every source mentioned might have participated in conversion work. However, there are a relatively significant number of very well executed shortened three-band Krnka short rifles and two-band Krnka carbines out in the world. In 1856, the Russians adopted their first rifled long arm of reduced bore for general issue to the infantry, the Model 1856 or Six Line Rifle. We are unaware whether or not Krnkas obtained by Bulgarian from Russia were subsequently further marked by Bulgaria in any way to differentiate them from the Russian rifles. Webmusket; Firearms; Percussion Fire;.72 In; Smooth Bore; Muzzle Load; Sa associated date 1858 place made France Measurements overall: 56 1/2 in x 2 3/4 in; 143.51 cm x 6.985 The examples that we have been made aware of or have personally handled and examined are clearly originally M1869 Russian army rifles, including hardware and markings. Note to Visitors: This rifle, along with the M1869 Russian Albini-Baranov and the M1868 Russian Berdan I were all developed more-or-less concurrently over the same several years, hence this HISTORICAL CONTEXT section as well as the bulk of the DEVELOPMENT section will be substantially identical for all three rifles. 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