Fun stuff. I started by polishing with fine grit wet/dry sandpaper to get the finish off of the parts. The combination of the ported barrels, which reduces muzzle climb, and those green fiber-optic sights, which enable easy target acquisition in all light conditions, make this is one hell of a tactical shotgun. Just take into consideration that these are short range firearms with an effective firing range around 30 yards. For only $50 more, the Supremes are equipped with better grip checkering, higher grade walnut stocks, and thicker rubber recoil pads sounds like a great deal to me! Thats why youre sitting there with abrasives, polishing down rough machine finishes on a brand new gun. I found instructions on what to do and how to do it on the internet, and it is a pleasant evenings diversion. There are a couple possible issues (dominant trigger finger, one round firing while the hammer falls on the other causing a force reduction, etc) but if the right trigger doesn't fire on it's own consistently I don't know. I own several of them. by Tommy Reb Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:01 pm, Post Typically, I hit about five or six clay birds out of 10 with my Remington 870. The gun is simple enough that I think I can fix about any problem that might happen if I can get the parts. Not sure Blaine, just checked and the only thing they list now are single shots. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. Ever notice the two little hinged things sticking out of the forward end of the receiver that sort of just flop around after the barrels are removed. As previously suggested. Smiths , a Browning & a Benneli and rely upon the Stoeger as a farm / ranch tool . Its always a good day when I learn new stuff. If I ever do get one, Ill be sure to give it this treatment. If yer gonna make a wall hanger out of it.. The possibility of snakes , varmints ( 2 & 4 legs ) is real , I prefer point & shoot with a scattergun over her looking for her CCW Sig P225 , and it is SO SIMPLE to operate . by Griff Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:44 am, Post First a little coach gun anatomy. Lastly, I did a lot of surgery to the buttstock, removing a lot more wood; fluting the comb, Slimming the wrist, and installing a brown recoil pad it is about as close to an 1878 Colt as i can make it, without changing out parts.. Its easy to maneuver through the house, and 12-gauge is absolutely devastating at across-the-living-room distances, even with birdshot. I really like Ithica, LeFever etc. I have rid my garden of groundhogs with #5 turkey loads. I got one off a fellow forumite in 20 gauge, with hammers, and 26" barrels, Mod and Imp Cyl, IIRC. Rubber butt pad. I was just in a Sportsmans Wearhouse Store yesterday, and they had 4 on their shelf. And yes, it does kill pigeons like nobodys business! Its a nice shotgun with none of the problems you describe or any others. And then I made my fatal mistake with the Coach Gun. I did check out the Silverado when I bought mine, and the fit and finish are pretty sweet. Experience speaks for itself, and the Coach has a brilliant track record. Many people might wonder why these guns have withstood the test of time as trusted weapons, but the answer is simple. You have entered an incorrect email address! I just have the plain-jane modelstock is standard, not English, and it isnt finished quite as nicely. My buddy shot it once and said thats it. His technique was awful and the recoil knocked him backwards since he absolutely refuses to lean into any gun shotgun, rifle or hand gun. Its a fun little no frills gun that really packs a bang behind it. You could hunt with it. P.S. Good gun for the money considering you could spend double or triple on a side by side shotgun. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. Have LTCH to verify . Hammerless No. Each time I took off a little bit from the spring and the lock impeller, I would reinstall both to check safety function and lever pressure. More specifically, coach guns were ubiquitous in the Wild West, especially for defending stagecoaches, which is why sitting in the passenger seat became known as, A lot of people think the Coach Gun is a niche firearm, but in truth, its actually a quite versatile shotgun. Like the spring, a Dremel tool is recommended for this process. Basically, the bolt that screws the stock into the trigger housing, or "tail" as it is referred to in the owner's manual, keeps loosening after about 16 shells through the barrels. It makes a huge difference. By As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, Beretta Holding S.p.A, Stoeger Industries gets overshadowed by the more established gunmakers Beretta, Benelli, and Franchi. Its easy to load and shoot and would be a good first shotgun for someone who doesnt know much about loading and operating a pump or semi-auto. I still have those two old Stevens I got back in the Shooters World heyday. This destroyed the gun meaning it had to be replaced under warranty. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. It's great for backyard clay shooting, and plenty of Cowboy Action shooters have picked one up to use in their game. and I prefer hammerless, especially for defense work. I gots to get me one of them Coach Guns. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. Most of the online advice recommended using a Dremel tool for cutting the spring, but I couldnt find mine due to a recent move (its since been located). The longer barrels would be a better hunter. Now look at the Stoeger. This is a job best left to a gunsmith, because while it looks easy, it isnt, and I havent the time to try to explain the process. At 25 yards, the Federal Slugs from the left barrel hit in the middle. I personally prefer the 26" barrel for a double duty bird gun but the 20" coach sounds perfect for strictly home defense. Eligible for FREE shipping * Trigger Lock Lever, New . Very nice. There are three primary shotguns used in cowboy action shooting: the Model 1897 with a 20-inch barrel, the Model 1887 lever action shotgun, or a side-by-side coach gun. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. One of their most popular models is their modern take on the classic American Old West Coach Gun. But since the powerful shotguns dont have any rubber buttpads, I went with the easier to use single-triggered 20 gauge Coach. The ability to achieve a proper profile, down to the same profile as the wood (without touching the wood when the pad is already on the butt) takes some skill. by Buck Elliott Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:03 pm, Post What make of shotgun shells are you using? But I would certainly not be unarmed if all I had was a Stoeger Coach Gun and six spare shells. It is a nice fast handling little shotgun but not what I would call a skeet gun. More specifically, coach guns were ubiquitous in the Wild West, especially for defending stagecoaches, which is why sitting in the passenger seat became known as riding shotgun. I love this gun. It is called a coach gun because it was widely used by stage coach guards in the Wild West days. The short-barreled, side-by-side coach gun was the firearm of choice for lawmen across the Old West and its compact dimensions made it perfect for stagecoach guards. As the spring is shortened, the impeller and spring become a lot easier to take out and put back in. While I still need to do a little more grinding on the chamber mouths and polishing of the mating surfaces, Im happy with my efforts to stick my toe into the gunsmithing realm, although that term is probably too generous for my fine tuning. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. The Stoeger Coach gun is a side-by-side shotgun, chambered for both shells with 2-3/4" and 3" measurement. Looks classy and cowboy, sort of like if Sean Connery had been the lead character in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly instead Clint Eastwood. Ji, did you just say chukar hunting on MAUI??!!! Our price: $549.99. Sight . I was surprised to see how much material he actually removed when I got a chance to handle it earlier this month. As soon as I ground the first atom of material off of one of the parts, my Stoeger was out of warranty. I sent it off to Kiowa Nate Jones and got his action job, and it is a very sweet gun. Some need to be frozen to grind them worth a damn. TNN has addressed several issues with this gun. 2. mY 1897 IS ACTUALLY A US ARMY TRENCH GUN FAST SHOOTING AND ACCURATE. Either way, these are both exceptional price point shotguns. In CA, this incurs another $75 FFL fee and another 10-day wait. I recommend hooking up the, When it comes to tactical flashlights, its hard to beat Streamlight; this renowned company has two exceptional devices that are perfect for Stoegers Double Defense. Barrel length: 20" Overall length: 36.5" Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. Recover the sight, realign on the target or the next target, and fire the shotgun using the second barrel. STOEGER. Does anyone know what the fix is or do I have an expensive wall hanger.HELLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!! Everyone who looked at it says it works just fine. by Blaine Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:40 pm, Post I got away from reloading shotgun shells because of problems with them feeding after 3 reloads through my automatics and factory new WERE cheap @ Bass Pro / Cabelas . Just purchased a new Stoeger side by side 12 gauge coach gun. Johnny was a race car driver, oh he drove so fast, he never did win a race but he never came in last. I have never seen a side by side shoot skeet. Capacity: 2 I HAVE ALL 3 OF THE SHOTGUNS YOU DESCRIBE. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Out of the box, 1st time shooting trap ever, and I started at 13/25 the first day out, and my last round was 24/25 on the second trip to the range. I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. ALSO, on many shotguns, s/s, o/u and some others the safety is RIGHT WHERE IT BELONGS under the thumb. The fix is not too difficult if you are reasonably adept with tools. Model: DOUBLE & OVER UNDER MODELS. David, Provided you have the Supreme Model, you can change the Chokes with I even coach rifle as a sport. I know stoeger makes all right shotguns, but I've never heard of Century International Arms (I'm not a huge gun guy). If I shoot a gun for an extended period and dont once giggle or gleefully exclaim something like Oh, Hell yeah! I know the gun isnt for me. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Thanks! It broke the barrel lug after the 12 shell during break in at the trap range. The easiest way to disable the safety is not to modify the pin that operates it. It is easy to work on, as I have described above. The 20 inch barrels are the longest component when broken down. The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. Duh! Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guard's shotgun of choice. A go-anywhere-where-its-legal 12-gauge shotgun. How can I find a Stoeger Industries dealer? I sent it to Vaquero Hayes on this forum and I still have a shotgun that drives me nuts. It's little . As a result of its renowned reputation and ever-growing popularity, Stoeger wanted to create a redesigned Coach for the modern tactical home-defense shooter. Easy! I gotta get one of these!. Moved into deep ruel kentucky, from the city, where the coyote packs run and the meth heads cook!If im late from work, sure does feel good to know, with a phone call shell get that gun, jack two rounds,and eight more in the sling, till i get home. Much to my chagrin, I found that I could absolutely crush clay birds with the coach gun. Plus I cant forget about the game changing fiber-optic sights. I took wet/dry sandpaper and worked it into the chambers until a shotshell would fall out without resistance. Too, To take advantage of the top rail, youll most likely want to attach some type of reflex or holographic sight. The struggles with the gun were many. also is there a manual for this gun? by Ji in Hawaii Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:48 am, Post When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I broke out my Do-All trap machine, and got a box of clay targets. They replaced the gun the first two times. Specifications: Chokes: IC and M fixed; Sights: Brass Bead; Weight: 6.5lbs Sling swivel. There are over 100 parts in an 1897 and something is always breaking. I was focusing on safety and technique, not speed, so I was comfortable with the few rounds of practice I got with the gun the day before the match. and was consistently seeing that if you want to shoot an 1897, you need to get a gunsmith to slick it up. Break action with 2-round capacity; But the Silverado is a lightweight, compact, do-it-all shotgun that does one thing as well as any firearm on the planet: make me smile. It was from China I think and it felt like the biggest piece of junk shotgun ever made in the history of the world. 03708431400. After about the sixth or seventh consecutive clay double I erased out of the sky, I heard a loud voice whooping and hollering, and then realized it was me. Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme Dual Triggers Polished Nickel 20 Ga Shotgun 20" Barrels. Theres a great deal to learn about Stoegers premier side by side but before we get the ball rolling on the Gunivore review of Stoeger Industries Coach Gun, check out our rundown on the past, present, and future of the entire up-and-coming, Finish: Black-Finished Hardwood, Polished Nickel, Due to its alliance with the Beretta Holding Group, you can bet your bottom dollar that Stoeger did not cut corners when it comes to their components quality. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Polecat Polecat in a Poke Joined Apr 8, 2013 Messages 2,761 Likes If you talk to enough people who own guns you will hear horror stories about every brand. Dont Shoot New York Now Why Would I Want to Do That? Will be sending back again. Purchase brand new Stoeger guns online from our shop. The Single-Trigger Coach Gun. My father bought a 20 ga to have for an around the house gun. Im picky about round things staying round, so I would have used a different tool to chamfer the cylinders. DPS has a price to book ratio (ttm) of 3.47 and a price to sales ratio of 1.51. Check to compare It handles and points wonderfully. Think angry-as-hell-donkey vs. ornery jackass vs. slightly miffed mule. Overall Rating * * * * 1/2 No sir. I found one online for $100 less (plus shipping and FFL fee) and it arrived just in time to use in the next cowboy match. . The Price for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun has increased in cost by $0.00 in 2023 compared to 2022. Akheloce Registered Joined Dec 24, 2012 The term coach gun is a generic description for a side-by-side shotgun with an 18-20 inch barrel. Gun Review: Stoeger Silverado Coach Gun (12 Gauge). "-Thomas Jefferson. by Nate Kiowa Jones Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:49 am, Post The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. FYI, instead of step 2 you can buy an aftermarket lightened spring on Brownells and swap it it in without having to cut the factory one. If you watch the Video of the Instruction Manuel, at the very end, That was not readily visible in the other pic. What should I do if there is a problem with the function of my Stoeger Industries firearm? And thats it. The large heavy hammers make it easy to reduce the hammer springs even more. Ideal for home security or competitive shooting, each potent-punching shotgun features an A-grade satin walnut stock and forend, blued receiver, and 20" barrel. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. You have entered an incorrect email address! Its benelli go to there site its right there. I have a 12 ga. Stoeger coach gun and absolutely love it. Research into the matter revealed that I was being unrealistic. With bird shot, there was a good deal of overlap with the pellet clouds. In the last 12 months there is great demand for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun and most shotguns. What scope base will fit my Stoeger shotgun? Certainly there is a valid place for handguns. Ask Stoeger to replace it with a duel trigger model, you will have no more issues. In fact, Wyatt Earp was known to favor coach guns and Doc Holliday reportedly used a 10 gauge model at the OK Corral. I think the problem might be that the maximum amount of torque that is allowed to be applied to the bolt is 5 ft. lbs. Trap, on the other hand, seems to work out well for the Fox. There are several manufactures of coach guns, but I decided to go with the 20-inch barrel Stoeger Coach Gun because that was the brand used by most of those I was seeing at competitions. Ive heard that repair parts can be hard to come by, but I havent had to deal with that aspect of it yet. When you press the lever to open the action, the cam rotates and pushes the rod back. If take the stock off a Parker or Fox shotgun from 100 years ago, and you look at the lockwork, they look a helluva lot better than what we see in your photo above. Broken down, it will fit in a backpack. Its Beretta. Gun tinkering is probably a more adept description for my activities. Actually hard to open. I've had a TTN hammered double and a few Stoegers and had trouble with Remington primers, especially with the Stoegers. The gun I chose lists for $549. You have to go through the same routine with any of the black powder Italian clones, i.e., polishing all of the mating surfaces, particularly the surfaces that interface the hammer. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Chrome lined barrels choked SKEET & SKEET. Shortening the lock impellerThe lock impeller is the rod between the lever cam and the safety. Because of its shortened barrel and intuitive controls, the Stoeger promises fast reloads and even faster pointing and swing. I can put it under the seat of my Honda Ruckus, in a case, and head to the woods. If yes do you have the original lever spring? Awesome. Purchased the gun for bear and wolf protection for our cabin land in Northern Saskatchewan. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. . This time they "fixed" it. It is hell-for-stout, and still tight, after several thousand rounds, including 3" 000Buck and 600-grain Brenneke slugs.. I personally think it will be the ruler of the Classic Cowboy catagory shotguns. by 1894c Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:27 am, Post Regards, #1. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. Update your browser to view this website correctly. Did you or someone else flare the chamber mouths? All in all pretty easy and smooth. Price: $479. My brand new Stoeger Coach Supreme broke the barrel lug after the 12th shell during field testing. When assembled it was 36.5 inches long overall. You probably played with them, wondering what they actually do. Ive been looking at the same shotgun. It just started having light primer strikes at 250 rounds. The reason is that Im a rifle shooter in my soul. Whatever it was there is no way I'd ever pay the $400 they were asking for it. Gonna get one. Stoeger Coach Guns single and double trigger shotguns are based on the Old West stagecoach guards shotgun of choice. Two different chokes is a standard setup for twin-barreled shotguns. Also have been wanting to try Cowboy Action Shooting for quite a while, but competition of any kind gets expensive really fast. You can also find some other tools in the automotive industry to accomplish the modification your trying to do, Theres a lot of good information in here Im glad that I happened to stumble on the site my issue that Im having is the stock of my side-by-side shotgun where it meets the actual receiver after the barrel is back in line with the stock right where it meets the metal it is chipping off pieces of the stock I have two missing chunks out of my stock and it seems like it would be a reoccurring problem if I dont figure out how to fix it. The new value of a STOEGER COACH GUN shotgun has risen $15.15 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $534.39 . Dad and I both love that rig. Simultaneously, this affiliation has enabled Stoeger to thrive by providing them with state-of-the-art technology, better business management, and improved techniques. Get a good quality recoil pad (I would recommend a Pachmayr Magnum Trap pad for this application) and put it on the gun. What types of problems would not be covered under warranty? With these improvements, my shotgun technique at the next match was much smoother than it had been at the previous match. What's on the current list? I remember shooting it while standing on a frozen pond and going backwards. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. Mine had a little too much wood where it joins the action so I had to relieve it. My BIGGEST suggestion would be to call the company, and ask. Quality steel receiver & barrel. by Buck Elliott Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:08 pm, Post by pshort Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:12 pm, Post I think it is an excellent value for the money. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. However, the few nuanced mods made to the double-barreled shotgun make a huge difference. (posted on the 5th of Feb) THE YOUTUBE LINK Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. The NON Supreme Model Shotgun has Fixed Chokes and are not removable. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a73fba975c4e1294af929a4bc20a5919" );document.getElementById("b41c6d486d").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. The Stoeger Coach Gun side by side double has made a mark on the cowboy action shooting circuit and the hunting models are great guns for upland hunting and small game. I was in a LGS the other day and I looked at coach gun-wish like all I get out I could remember the brand. I now have a $400 shotgun with $700 invested. The only two coach guns that I know of in this range are from Stoeger and Century arms. I have owned both a Stoeger IGA Uplander, and a USSR made Baikal and they were both very reliable guns that I would not hesitate to recommend. Older guns were made this way. for a group of college age young women (aged 18-21) living off campus, or single women in general. IMO buy a cheap hammerless and shorten it, this is a Herculie's 12 i cut off and put a new bead on. The vast majority of less-expensive doubles produce results similar to the Stoeger Silverado Coach Guns. I had a new Stoeger Coach Supreme. Like the Double Defense, the HS12 is super lightweight, user-friendly, and very powerful. The 20-inch barrels meant I could move from target to target by just twitching a little. Mine is an early (pre-Cimarron) TTN, from the second import lot.. Did the same with other guys shooting it. by Nazgul Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 pm, Post This is a high-class place so act respectable. Simply remove the butt stock and remove the small pin the is connected to the trigger block. While it may seem foolish to some, one of my favorite aspects of the TTN is its ability to be transformed from a bulbous 'clunker', into a very handsome, shootable gun.. Shaping the stock, within the parameters of the available wood was a pleasant challenge, as was the minor action wotk I performed on it.. But I will offer a few review-type comments about this shotgun. I'm thinking a hammerless would be the best for her less to do and less to go wrong. CAS, racing sailboats, competitive swimming, airplanes, amateur gunsmithing and some other stuff I cant remember right now, Badlands Bar 3 Dooley Gang Charter Member, Merlin Marauders - Table Rock Rangers - Hawkinsville Claim Jumpers, SASS - RO Instructor - Territorial Governor of Eldorado Cowboys, President - Eldorado Cowboys, Eldorado Cowboys, Desert Desperados, Thunder River Renegades- Brazos Rangers- Tejas Pistoleros- Dooley Gang-SBSS #2521-ROII, Rockford Sportmans Club & Wolverine Rangers. Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] Ak, o ka poe hilinai aku i Ihova, e ulu hou n ko lkou ikaika; There is a fine line between hobby & obsession! Same problem appears constantly. Thats way the duel trigger are better, they require less tuning and are easy for the local gunsmith to adjust or repair. Get the stainless firing pins (and the tool) from longhunter. Starting with the most famous and expensive, Id like to give my readers four great options to choose from. by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:03 pm, Post At first I thought the recoil was maybe engaging the safety but after a few misfires I realized it's light primer strikes, and I think it might be just the right barrel. How can I become a Stoeger Industries dealer? Brand: Stoeger. Its going to be my pack gun/ go every where gun. After using sandpaper, I put toothpaste on the surfaces, reassembled the shotgun, and opened and closed it several dozen times. 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