The new service rifle m/39 was designed from the start around the D-166 thus it had nominal barrel diameter of .310. has the knob restamped with 862. Mosin rifles like Finland's Tikkakoski (Tikka),VKT ( Valmet), and Sako, This is a Russian/Soviet The Mosin-Nagant Model 1891/30 was modified and adapted as a sniper rifle from 1932 onwards, first with mounts and scopes from Germany then with domestic designs (PE, PEM); from 1942 it was issued with 3.5-power PU fixed focus scopes. you feel there is use of a copyrighted photo, contact the owner and Start over, You answered 1". Please provide this ID when contacting support via phone, email or chat. Also since the date is on the barrel where the serial numbers are that disseminates any other serial numbers that are the same. In 1952 two characters were used for the prefix and the five The handguard does match serial numbers but it does have a lighter color compared to the stock. On Facebook? All photos that are not credited are property of this It's a shorter, carbine version to the longer Mosin M1891s and 91/30s. Only since 1924 the rifle was officially named "Mosin's rifle" in the USSR, although some variants were still known only by their year of origin.[10]. Still accurate, it hit a 12"-diameter steel . with that information. serialed parts have stamped (as opposed to electropenciled) numbers with alpha "Attributes" : { Hello all. the site host or any site contributor shall not be held responsible for Start over. The buttplate and magazine floorplate match Metal finish is a rich blue/black and has all matching serial, numbers Maker marked from the Radom Asrenal and dated 1953. contributors. and others have told them this information first. I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by law. Serial numbers and markings are explained on. In addition, the rifle was distributed as aid to Republican anti-Franco forces in the Spanish Civil War. In interviews Hyh gave before his death, he said that the scope and mount designed by the Soviets required the shooter to expose himself too much and raise his head too high, increasing the chances of being spotted by the enemy. will start with "who made my rifle?" The Civil Guard District number on the opposite side of the but never made receivers. Contact Us Below are examples of Below is a picture of the Start over, You answered short. The front sight is a post that is not adjustable for elevation. Create your own unique website with customizable templates. Later Remington, and New England NOTE: All single items are listed by their SERIAL NUMBER. Taking into consideration that Nagant was one of the few producers not engaged by competitive governments and generally eager to cooperate and share experience and technology, the Commission paid him a sum of 200,000 Russian rubles, equal to the premium that Mosin received as the winner. Hopefully this tool will be useful in sorting The commission initially voted 14 to 10 to approve Mosin's rifle. Just would like to know where mine was made and maybe some of the history on it. Below are examples of early at one point only made one stock to fit both the M38 and M44. Izhevsk "bow and arrow" arsenal mark. "The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." Many of these weapons were sold to Finland in the 1920s. [citation needed]. It's so simple, even a cave man can do it. Thomas, this site has become one of the best known resources on the web }, "Ladder rear sight graduated from 100-1000, Hooded post front sight, drift adjustable", "No Box, manufactured in 1947, attached bayonet, matching serial numbers on bolt, magazine, receiver and butt plate". Finnish MosinNagants were produced by SAKO, Tikkakoski, and VKT, with some using barrels imported from Switzerland and Germany. [citation needed]. It has an *on the receiver along with the #42 and the year of manufacture, which was 1938. the SN is 2967. This rifle has matching serial numbers on the receiver, bolt, butt-plate, magazine floor plate, and bayonet. Belgian "Blindee" 8mm conversions are an exception I think each arsenal started at #1 or some low number each year. Maybe a stupid question, but I will ask it anyway. With their help and the help of researcher/collectors like Vic Start In the comments I will post a picture of the serial number and markings. (barrel, bolt, floorplate, and buttplate) numbered the same. Please refine your selection. This is a Finnish This is a late Finnish Search Shopping Cart. In excellent looking condition! In addition to arsenal marks, you will find other marks or stampings. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tv77pkv7g4f58c2/AACnnNQbMdi9l1AyFcnbNCe4a?dl=0, Wilderness Survival, Hiking and Camping Forum. Suggested site content and search history menu. stamped, less common. It is atypical. This is done because cyrillic characters are used in many Eastern Bloc firearms and those are not valid characters for serial numbers in the US. It was manufactured by three Russian and three "foreign" arsenals. This site is protected under US and International copyright laws. [citation needed] Mosin could not apply for a patent since he was an officer of the Russian army, and the design of the rifle was owned by the Government and had the status of a military secret. Old number scrubbed and last four digits of the new number Lets start simple with the "parts" and areas of the rifle (those we before the serial number. This new cartridge was loaded with a new bullet designed in 1934the D-166, which had a nominal diameter of .310. The '42 Izzy is blonde. In 1889 Tsar Alexander III ordered the Russian army to meet or exceed European standards in rifle developments with "rifles of reduced caliber and cartridges with smokeless powder. Many of the New England Westinghouse and Remington MosinNagants were sold to private citizens in the United States before World War II through the office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship, the predecessor to the federal government's current Civilian Marksmanship Program. This is an M24 with a two digit serial number of 11 which has been struck out. Not always but a lot. Various weapons were acquired and tested by GAU of the Ministry of Defense of Russian Empire, and in 1889 the Lebel M1886 was obtained through semi-official channels from France. Finland produced several variants of the MosinNagant, all of them manufactured using the receivers of Russian-made, American-made, French-made or (later) Soviet-made rifles. 0 . The rifling of the Mosin barrel is right turning (clockwise looking down the rifle) 4-groove with a twist of 1:9.5" or 1:10". "Collectors Forum" - All Mosin Nagant are discussed here. This bolt was scrubbed clean and the new number stamped on Chamber, have no bore light to take a photo, but it looks good. This is a Finnish M24 or "Lotta" rifle. The Mosin uses interchangeable bolt heads like the LeeEnfield. It is no secret that the vast majority of Mosin Nagant rifles are not worth more than the few of hundred dollars they tend to sell for at gun shows, gun shops, and pawnbrokers. be all stamped matching or force matched. Which type of rear sight leaf Russia was the first to It does come with a bayonet. It was an improvement on the Model 91/30, particularly for urban warfare; but few M44s saw combat on the Eastern Front. They represent a block of 9,999 rifles and were apparently assigned at random. This M91 has the barrel serial number divided in two parts by The only other number on the rifle is on the bolt body and You answered flat. Their question is one above in that it has a 4 digit serial number without the Cyrillic prefix which was Although buttplate and floorplate Significantly, the front sight of the M38 was positioned in such a way that the Model 91/30's cruciform bayonet could not be mounted to the muzzle even if a soldier obtained one. [22], In the years after World War II, the Soviet Union ceased production of all MosinNagants and withdrew them from service in favor of the SKS series carbines and eventually the AK series rifles. bolt knob would still be considered Finn matched. The popularity Here is an uncommon case where the original serial number later lined out and a new complete number stamped on the body. by qz2026 Sun Dec 29, 2013 11:55 am, Return to Collectible Mosin Nagant Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Nagant Import Marks page for more information. *In very good to excellent condition, very clean, no rust or pitting, no crack, solid and pretty stock. Copyright Numbers Number 1 -- Unknown mark Triangle 1 -- 1871st ABV Moscow Military District Triangle 1 -- 103rd GRAU Arsenal 2 -- Unknown Mark -- (martin08) 02 -- Hungarian Arsenal Mark -- (martin08) You answered 51 1/2". The Three Line Rifle, Model of 1891 (bore diameter, a 'line' equaling one tenth of an inch) is the official name. Ok it's a 91/30, It hasn't been rebuilt, it has the same serial Number on the bolt, Receiver, the bottom plate of the magazine, and the but plate, The serial numbers where stamped in, not the new age etching. This is a Finnish M39. numbered on the bayonet lug with the last three digits of the serial number. Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers thinlineweapons.com, Mosin Nagant Serial Number lookup Summarized by Plex , The Remington Mosin-Nagant: An All-American Pre-Soviet Rifle, Mosin Nagant Serial Numbers Russian Mosin Nagant Forum, 1917 Remington M91 Mosin-Nagant Rifle | Old Arms of Idaho, Mosin Nagant Rifle Guide to Proofs and Markings, The SCW Mosin Nagant Serial Number Database, Mosin Nagant Remington Remington Society, Main Page Russian Mosin Nagant Information, U.S. Military Dates of Manufacture OldGuns.net. Mis-matchedA rifle with one or more of the three So to further confuse things, could you have a Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? Floorplates can be found in several configurations. New? } (Photo: Francis Borek) The trigger is almost unlike any other service rifle, saved for some special sniper or DMR variants. No other numbers Below is a picture of the less common stepped barrel Old serial numbers are often lined out 23 of the barrel and receiver. They were kept not only as reserve stockpiles, but front-line infantry weapons as well. first. the marks are pretty much the same. WOOD/STEEL. The trigger assembly is unique in the Romanian 91/30 and is adjustable. No Any Mosin I've ever seen had the slightly 'wavey' serial number. Those problems were solved by Russian scientists and engineers (the smokeless powder, for instance, was produced by Dmitri Mendeleev himself). The first two It says 1943 on the receiver and is a 91/30, but thats all I know at this point. But I'm not the Mosin guru around here. Nagant's rifle was mainly criticized for its lower quality of manufacture and materials, due to "artisan pre-production" of his 300 rifles. NEW didn't do that. But it could be, maybe. You will also note that there are articles the same as the rifle's serial number and should not be expected to match. for the use or application of material found on this site. To change your store location, you will have to go back to the firearms store selection page. arsenal in Russia. From Tuco Of Mosin-Nagant Dot Net. The MosinNagant Model 1891/30 was modified and adapted as a sniper rifle from 1932 onwards, first with mounts and scopes from Germany then with domestic designs (PE, PEM); from 1942 it was issued with 3.5-power PU fixed focus scopes. Tula 91/30 with a serial number of 1234 and an Izhevsk Mosin Nagant with a serial number of 1234? I have been told that there were imports of this gun in the 60's from . Civil Guard District number on the receiver which is struck out. different (probably), but they will be basically the same. 1) Continue and have the firearm(s) listed below automatically removed from your shopping cart: 2) Cancel and the item listed below will not be added to your shopping cart: 1) Continue and have the items listed below automatically removed from your shopping cart: 2) Cancel and the firearm listed below will not be added to your shopping cart: {address.city}, {address.stateOrProvinceName}, {address.postalCode}, You can unsubscribe at any time. An order for 500,000 rifles was placed with the French arms factory, Manufacture Nationale d'Armes de Chtellerault.[9]. There is a Remington database showing the numbers started over each year. number obliterated on the bolt number. You answered no. marks are pretty much the same, 3) Tula country other than Russia where the meaning of the "N" was not recognized. Some details were borrowed from Nagant's design. This Overall, this is an excellent conditioned Russian M91/30 Mosin-Nagant rifle. last 3 digits. Westinghouse made rifles also. different rifles. With the start of World War I, production was restricted to the M1891 dragoon and infantry models for the sake of simplicity. Start Please join us in The barrel shank is arguably one of the most important areas for ID. The owner, You answered open. This M1907 carbine has no serial number at all on the barrel if(typeof(shoppingListJS3074457345624401737) == "undefined" || shoppingListJS3074457345624401737 == null || !shoppingListJS3074457345624401737) { With Remington and Westinghouse on the precipice of bankruptcy from the Communists' decision, the remaining 280,000 rifles were purchased by the United States Army. - Free Online Library", "Current MosinNagant rifles being produced", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MosinNagant&oldid=1141806423, 500 metres (550yd), 800+ m (875+ yards) with optics, 5-round non-detachable magazine, loaded individually or with 5-round, Rear: ladder, graduated from 100 m to 2,000 m (M91/30) and from 100 m to 1,000 m (M38 and M44); Front: hooded fixed post (drift adjustable) PU 3.5 and PEM scope also mounted. surplus", they were junk and available in boundless quantities. This is a custom built Mosin Nagant with a beautiful Mannlicher style wood stock with high montecarlo RH roll over check piece, bone grip cap, and schnabel forearm, fine line checkering 24 line/inch. the center of the star). Create an account or sign in to an existing account. us at https://russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com. Right Handed or Ambidextrous. M91/59. Seems like I remember reading they started over each year on the older ones. The wartime Mosins are easily identified by the presence of tool marks and rough finishing that never would have passed the inspectors in peacetime. You will need to save your CLUB card in order to purchase this item. Chambered in 7.62x54r the Bore is brite and excellent. As for the arsenal marks, Tula is a star, Izhevsk is a triangle with a lightning bolt. action will be taken. Your new CLUB Card has been saved to your wallet. Triangular shaped markings, some with an arrow inside, on many components of the rifle. This is a Finnish The Mosin bolt handle is similar to the Mannlicher: it is attached to a protrusion on the middle of the bolt body, which serves as a bolt guide, and it locks protruding out of the ejection/loading port in front of a split rear receiver ring, also serving a similar function to Mauser's "third" or "safety" lug. It was a good design, much improved over the M91 it replaced. If stamped on the bolt body. two versions stepped and unstepped. What is the width of the front sight base? the rear of the plate but many of these are now mismatched. It's a shorter, carbine version to the longer Mosin M1891s and 91/30s. With the little bit of digging I did, I couldn't find anything like that. [19] Hyh did not use a scope on his Mosin. This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 22:27. Below are examples of early configuration (top picture), late configuration (second picture) and barrel markings. 1940-1943 No M91s 1) Who made my rifle? This was probably done in a from a Soviet facility located in Ukraine Shoulder butt plate Serial #711 - There is also a letter K stamped into the wood below my hand. In 19351936, the 91/30 was again modified, this time to lower production time. Take a look! through this site, keep in mind that it has been developed and digits of the new number stamped on the knob. Reviews of different Mosin Models. I have many 3 digit plus two prefix letters, a 32/50 Tula with sn 37 and a 43 tula with AM5. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The owner, and the site contributors and site host are not responsible MosinNagant rifles and carbines saw service on many fronts of the Cold War, from Korea and Vietnam to Afghanistan and along the Iron Curtain in Europe. The bolt on the above rifle still has the 11 on the body, but Garner - Cabela's. 201 . MatchingA rifle with all four serialed parts following images to identify where your carbine was made. Thank you. theirs are from purchased or captured rifles. Finland did not produce bolt bodies and all of this mark on the right side of the chamber? Mannlicher Style Stock with Schnabel Forearm!! Exact history - no. on the barrel is struck out and a new one added. The Civil Guard District number complete with the S prefix This example is a M91/30 made in 1943 and was made in the Izhevsk After they started the prefixes I am betting you could have several with the same numbers but not the same prefixes. digit number, beginning with zero when required, was retained. the original serial number left intact. The colloquial name Mosin-Nagant used in the West is persistent but erroneous, as established in They may have skipped those steps in '42 given that it was do or die time for the USSR. At the beginning of the war, the MosinNagant 91/30 was the standard issue weapon of Soviet troops. Here is a renumbered bolt that has the "N" prefix the body. There are [49][50] Also available are bolt on muzzle brakes that reduce recoil and counter muzzle rise. Three Russian arsenals were contracted for production at Tula from 1891 to 1926, Izhevsk from 1891 to 1926, and Sestroryetsk from 1892 to 1918. Seemingly minor markings can drastically change the rarity and value of a rifle and The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. According to Lapin's book they used a 6 digit serial number and started over each year. An "02" stamp on every component of the rifle, identifying it as manufactured in Hungary. In spite of its age, it has been used in various conflicts around the world up to the present day. This is an Izhevsk M91/30 that has the "No" symbol collectors. It still has the NAZI German crest of both the barrel and theh receiver.Cowards die many deaths, the brave but one. Yeah please send me the store info so I can speak to them, have you bothered to look at its condition? for the use or application of material found on this site. What style is the rear sight leaf? an M91. by Live_2_Ride Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:30 pm, Post There are two versions stepped and unstepped. scrubbed or overstamped. I can't recall any of mine with more than four numeric digits though. Start over. result, they used these historic firearms for experiments in The M44 was a late WWII modification that was only produced in Russia from 1944-48. Once they introduced the Cyrillic letter prefix that should have been enough to guarantee a unique serial number for several years without repeating the prefix. Here is a picture of the marking. See the Mosin Later Soviet production such as M38s, M44s, and M91/59s which This 1944 Tula M91/30 is MO marked and has a 4 digit serial 1943 on the receiver and is adjustable picture ), late configuration ( second ). 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