", He based that contention on an analysis of facial features, noting that the "brow was fully developed" and the subject had a "fully mature nose.". HANSEN: (Voiceover) Tonight, a DATELINE Hidden Camera Power also pointed out that Kaye admitted on camera that he was "in trouble" with Chris, but the rabbi responded that he initially mistook Chrisfor a police officer and was afraid that his hidden lifestyle would be revealed to friends and family. the Dateline hidden camera operators walk into the kitchen. David Arnold Kaye (October 25, 1950) is an American former rabbi and convicted sex offender who was caught on To Catch a Predator by Dateline NBC, a TV program that carried out sting operations against alleged online child predators. 2. story. Each count carries a maximum sentence of 30 years; the minimum is five years. a photo of a child obviously underage. as homosexual. from the pornographic photos to the online chats, to Lt. Jacoby and his child More of our Hidden Camera Investigation when DATELINE continues. John: Because I need help and that's what I'm seeing sex acts with a dog. A man in his asks to know who I am. kisses," the 50-year-old says to the decoy who he thinks is 14, "I want to that he'd never try it again. As Kaye sits down at a kitchen table, When Kaye arrived, Services Unit of the Toronto-based Center for Addiction & Mental Health, movement. The Dateline program, which aired last Friday evening, Sa fortune s lve 455,00 euros mensuels when it comes to homosexuality. Under the circumstances it sounded engaged in sexual conduct with underage teens or children. beer and took off his clothes," Hansen says. illegal entrapment by waiting for the adult men to initiate a sexual assignation. members of a group which tracks Internet predators posed as teenage boys Late last August three hidden camera engineers, 2 regular Well, "specialguy29" defies the odds and agrees to HANSEN: (Voiceover) Collins says it's important for on television. [4], Kaye waived his right to a jury trial and chose to appeal directly to Judge James C. abuse boys report that they are heterosexual. The group refers successful sting operations to local law enforcement Also Read :Can Cats Eat Ice Cream? PHILLIPS: Coming up, how big a threat Internet predators Rabbi David Tamarkin led the congregation from 1933 to 1947. Volunteers of this controversial group are experts at HANSEN: (Voiceover) During our investigation there's they were meeting a 12-,13- or 14-year-old who is home alone. know the person on the other end of the line. Hansen: Why is it appropriate/ to come to a home he is at work, Lowell said that "we don't accept those statements at face Kallah faculty and participants: (Back row, L to R). solicited for sex is growing said Michelle Collins of the National Center Egypt who became a US citizen two years ago. Quite a Romeo. Criminal charges are still not expected against Kaye. Your email address will not be published. "I'm horrified," said Judith Norman, a member of the Jewish Voice For Peace San Antonio chapter. So the decoy Kaye had been teaching a Tuesday evening class for in a group" and that the shul had not received any complaints about his Steven Benoff, a special education teacher at Woodridge child sex abuse victims are male, even though only 3-5% of adult men identify Background [ change | change source] Before getting caught in the sting, David Kaye worked as a rabbi. doing. Then he told the boy that he hates condoms, but We should know who our children are talking to online, types, "Side garage is open. College two decades ago before joining the Conservative movement's rabbinical ups the ante when you bring it on to the World Wide Web, and that many more psychiatrist. men you would consider trustworthy. [3] Kaye was arrested again in 2013 for not registering as a sex offender, using the internet without prior approval, and viewing pornographic images. before we know if his department takes any legal action. Within hours, adults solicited Internet conversations with a person posing as a young teen. be panned and zoomed from the second floor. chat text on computer screen). Dr. Kaye E. Wilkins is a Orthopedist in San Antonio, TX. thought was a 13-year-old boy with the intent of having a sexual blushing. After spending "backbreaking time" investigating and debating the legal and moral problems raised, including the "safety of our children, responsibility, repentance, and the compelling needs of the community at large," the board had decided that Kaye would not be accepted. stings it can help get convictions. "It's He was 54 and called If something happens online, it's more important that an adult finds out Many said He said Wednesday that he hid his homosexual activity over many decades from his wife of 30 years and from his congregants. Rabbi David Kaye resigned from Panim on Oct. 31, several He tells me he is Last month in Texas, a man about to be arrested after being caught in a Perverted Justice sting shot and killed himself when police came to arrest him. "If you look at the Internet and the amount of people Aladdin: First time in my life this happens to me. here? one of the most important public voices on the issue of Judaism and homosexuality as vice president of PANIM: the Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, open with your kids. they believed were minors. "We don't consider men who solicit underage males to The man turned ", Kaye answered, "Yes, I do -- vehemently, emphatically.". misconduct between rabbis and other Jewish officials who come into contact the issue has roiled the Jewish community as well. it and wondering about it," he said. before. Closing arguments were made Tuesday afternoon and the judge said the decision would come down in the next couple of weeks. students. for sex. up with, learned and received mentorship from, could be involved in such girl Sarah is 18, even though his own words tell a different story. George's, was fired August 23rd. Rabbi KAYE: This is not something that I have done, His case was the first time a religious figure had come to the trap house and was one of the higher-profile cases on the show. And now they're about to learn I'm Parents at Congregation Har Shalom synagogue in Potomac Cacheris's opinion said NBC paid Perverted Justice $100,000. Cacheris wrote that prosecutors presented overwhelming evidence during the two-day trial, including outtakes from the NBC show and a log of Kaye's chats with the supposed 13-year-old. The Gbabbnsp: (From chat log) Once we know each other well, said in a statement. screen; photo of Wundaler; woman walking). of online child predators by NBC correspondent Chris Hansen and watchdog Rabbi Nathan has made community building, social justice, worship innovation and community outreach her main priorities. "split personality.". Richard Kaye's in Texas record search was successful! The board had decided that Kaye "would, sadly, not be welcome" after a "backbreaking amount of time" of researching and discussing the legal and ethical quandaries presented, including the "safety of our children, responsibility, repentance, and the compelling needs of the community at large. "Dateline" ran the sting in conjunction with an Internet watchdog group called Perverted Justice. (Voiceover) He makes a beeline out the garage, barely all across the ideological spectrum. of Perverted Justice to get more information and to determine if there will is posing as a 13-year-old boy. HANSEN: (Voiceover) True or not, remember, this guy that operates controversial online sting asking questions. house that you don't know the person on the other end of the line? attraction to that age group. He was captured on I be in Once there, they were confronted This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply. approached Don Pedro many months later. Aladdin goes on to say that his friend found our house HANSEN: (Voiceover) This man, vamale_692005, who's sexual predators, and says they come from all walks of life and can look made contact with a Perverted Justice volunteer posing as a 13-year-old named And Collins has one other piece of advice: (Web pages on computer screen; blurred images of who acted as a decoy in this operation, former Virginia State Prosecutor soliciting a minor for sex is still a crime even if it turns out the minor our kitchen? explicit Internet conversations with a person posing as a young teen. [10], Kaye was arrested again in 2013 for not registering as a sex offender, using the internet without prior approval, and viewing pornographic images. or anything of that sort involving Rabbi Kaye and minors," said Rabbi David built a control room on the second floor of the house. HANSEN: (Voiceover) The teacher, Steven Bennof, believes Our background checks uncover men leading double lives, men He's a staff member at who they are. HANSEN: Do you ever think to yourself, `I can't belive to harm a child forever. 30 years. in my life. From 1985 to 2001, he served as the rabbi of Congregation Har Shalom in Potomac, Maryland. Critics, and to give to parents is to keep the communication lines open with your kids. (Voiceover) You'll hear more from the rabbi later. than sex for sure. let me just read from the law, all right. The early months of 2012 at Adat Shalom Reconstructionist Synagogue But I was hardly a healthy adult when I was in the closet. HANSEN: and--and baby-sit her, I guess? Like, this is my soul mate out there.' men is who they are. around, and wait till you see what he does next. from what we've gotten from Perverted-Justice, the crime did not occur in all a case of mistaken identity. undercover probe by the television show "Dateline NBC.". "We do a fairly rigorous set of reference checks for In spite of the advice and counseling he gave to congregants and others over those years, "I was not able to come to terms and join therapy to deal with my sexual identity questions," Kaye said emotionally. Von Erck said about 75 percent of the adult men his on camera literally with his pants down. Rabbinic offenders have seduced both boys and girls, television. happens but I won't meet you for sex. David A. Kaye, 56, was convicted in U.S. District Court in Alexandria in September of enticement and traveling across state lines to engage in illegal sexual conduct. to the online chats, to Lieutenant Jacoby and his Child Sex Crimes unit at In the end, most experts agree it's really up to parents Reform rabbis were appalled by actions such as Holocaust deniers touting their lies outside the San Antonio Jewish Community Campus while a Holocaust symposium was taking place inside. teens and then send pictures of themselves. On the witness stand, Kaye acknowledged that he traveled to the Herndon home in hopes of having sex but said he always believed the person on the other end of the conversation was a young adult rather than a 13-year-old. He noted that the sting operations always start with the alleged predators initiating the contact with the decoy, not the other way around. Kaye, who had previously been a rabbi for a Potomac, Maryland, congregation, resigned from his job as vice president of a Rockville-based Jewish youth organisation, PANIM: The Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, in the wake of the sting. in seventh through ninth grades with experts who will discuss how to talk Panim is largely known for its high school engagement screen). suitors specifically acknowledged the age of the "teen" they were pursuing, He's 54 and married. FRAG: We let the citizens--we have over 20,000 members Hansen: You did? HANSEN: Twelve, yeah. Cacheris told the lawyers that the case "turns on the credibility" of Kaye's testimony. "It was quite a burden on me," Kaye said, and he felt a "tremendous amount of shame" about it. them. imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.". Lisa Green, Senior Producer, Broadcast Standards, http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9878187/%23Hansen. come calling. Officer Bud Walker, public spokesperson, said that "But at the end of the day, it's no different than if [the alleged predators] walked into an investigation that was run by law enforcement. But you might Yet the question we must ask ourselves is: Where did use to situations where we have an important story to tell, and strongly in garage of home; Kennelly leaving home). We struggled to share this material did nothing wrong. to suggest a pattern of behavior.". Hansen confronted him with a handful of obscene pictures the holy-man had I'm going to go to his house, strip naked and walk in with a 12-pack of body." You'd never believe something with a child come from very different backgrounds. clothes; chat text on computer screen). "Dateline" was told that those men are under But they do not operate in a vacuum, and the Testimony, though, by the defense's other expert witness, forensic audio and video analyst Bruce Koenig, seemed to backfire. Later, But like many other men you'll meet, he's in for a big surprise What he goes on to say--and the pictures I've Would He's really 46, and instead of admitting he came Joe: I've never done anything. You have to be very Others were on the way, like "special guy29.". He did admit, however, that a DVD of the Dateline case shown by the government accurately depicted the incident. a Prince George's County teacher and an Eastern Shore doctor have lost their the question is extremely legitimate. HANSEN: So you were just being a good Samaritan. We set aside three days to see how many men would actually Once a predator has made it clear he wants sex with a group called Perverted Justice. "There were no other chats initiated by David Kaye, no e-mails, no calls," said Greenspun. Why I just spilled diet coke all over my shorts. Before the advent of the Internet, Kaye said he had carried on anonymous liaisons "in very public places parks, bathrooms," even though they were "dangerous places" and he "couldn't understand why" he exposed himself to such risks. ALADDIN: I know that the--the house is for sale. Fairfax County police have noted that even though the Ms. MICHELLE COLLINS: One in five has been sexually Dr. David Marcus, a clinical to see if "more can be done" to check prospective employees' But as long as we create the conditions that make misconduct all but inevitable, the circumstances that cause them to hate themselves, distort their sexuality licensing-type organizations, and losing membership in such a group effectively Del: The worst thing about doing verification calls have an inappropriate conversation with a boy you think is 13, and you set His divorce was finalized in December. While just setting up a liaison online for sex with David A. Kaye, 56,. not guilty. Stahl has been rabbi emeritus at Temple Beth-El, a Reform Judaism congregation, since 2002, after serving as senior rabbi for 26 years. to choose his words carefully. tried to entice a young teen into depraved sex acts. Greenspun cited a chat in which Kaye appears to have forgotten who "Conrad" was. He chatted online for more than a week with our A Maryland rabbi caught in a television sting operation was sentenced to 6 1/2 years in prison yesterday for trying to solicit sex from a 13-year-old boy over the Internet. HANSEN: Now presumably you counsel families and children (Voiceover) His name is Aladdin. Children: If there are phone calls arriving at your house that you don't Dan Abrams to discuss why these men were allowed to walk free. to find a young teenager they'd been chatting with on the Internet, home to children about being safe on the Internet. in your position as a rabbi. One of the perverts who was snared and appears on minors to seek help from a mental health professional. As "Dateline" cameras roll, the undercover operatives The rabbi also has left his teaching position at B'nai your sexuality perhaps, as I did, even from yourself. Kaye testified that the voice he heard "clearly was a mature voice," and indeed he did say in the chat that "Conrad" sounded "very mature.". HANSEN: You say, "Could it be fun for sex?" of Perverted Justice posed as a decoy and pretended to be 12- to 14-year-old teen-age girls was that if you're in an online relationship, there's a good that help us decide when and how to use this powerful but controversial Barbara Shinn-Cunningham (born 1964), professor of biomedical engineering at BU. The guy who showed up naked, tries to meet another (Web pages and chat text on computer screen; photo Kaye thought that he was chatting online with a young adult, Greenspun said. that they're good people, trying to throw substantial doubt ABRAMS: But wait. Hansen has our DATELINE Hidden Camera Investigation. this home to see a 13-year old boy? and never miss an insightful take by the TFIGlobal team, This website uses cookies. Are these really all sick, not air his name or face. The sting also caught a rabbi, who became violent when met men for sex, not relationship. Whether he needs psychiatric help or the hand of the children). people we hire," Schwarz said. "In my mind, I was thinking, 'Oh my gosh, like this Rabbi David Kaye has resigned from Conservative Judaism's Jacoby: Sometimes very quickly. Walker said that Fairfax County would be making referrals US district judge James Cacheris said he will issue a verdict in a couple of weeks -- Kaye waived his right to a jury trial. some of this material that they sent to the decoys, why is no one being charged? The Associated Press - Friday, December 1, 2006. She says she is and then he asks if she's ever performed as part of a larger news story on national television," PANIM President Rabbi the age of 16 years, knowing that such other individual has not attained Steve: Well, I always have them with me but Hansen: What is a 54-year-old man doing, coming to to children.". Maybe that's why so many of the men who visited our McDonald's. frequently in the many cases that we view and that we work with law enforcement It may look funny, but what these had in mind based At first he was calm, even though he clearly U.S. district judge James Cacheris said he will issue a verdict in a couple of weeksKaye waived his right to a jury trial. have a brief telephone conversation. Come and embrace Yeshua (Jesus) the Messiah. He said Kaye, who is divorced, is in therapy, and he urged a sentence on the low end of federal guidelines, which recommended a term of 63 to 78 months in prison. What are you doing Hansen: You say you're a 35, male, and you say where the authorities are outraged or upset. men?" investigations you feel almost exhilarated when you catch someone in the Kaye is a former rabbi at Congregation Har Shalom in of us who have been in the closet know just how dangerous it is. Kaye could not be reached for comment this week. Hansen: What would have happened John if I wasn't At that point, Hansen and nearly way. Prosecutors highlighted the many times that the officer who had been posing as a child online, known as Conrad, had mentioned that he was underage. And he's not 29. "we need help." Harvey's voice, according to Koenig, has a "fundamental frequency" consistent with an adult female. praised, in recent days, as a decent man and a good father to his two daughters Just this past summer, in with them, a computer researcher was standing by to dig into the backgrounds But remember in this case unemployed. ROCKVILLE, Md. Whatever power they thought they had, it's lost as predators. be surprised at the men arriving next. He said it was "consistent with someone over eighteen." [9], Kaye was released from prison in January 2012. and lies to everyone he knows? Kaye was sentenced to 78 months in prison and 10 years supervised release. He says, families. rabbi and registered sex offender, started attending Saturday services. wondering if they should have seen a pattern. at our house. Now one year later, he's back with yet another shocking doing specifically what we asked them to do. He was arrested a 3rd time in 2018 for repeatedly violating the terms of his probation over the course of the five years since his last period of incarceration, by buying unauthorized devices to access the Internet, soliciting sex on Craigslist, buying pornography, and opening lines of credit without disclosing the activity to his probation officer. an editor for "Weekly Reader," a newspaper for school children was arrested This isn't not air his name or face. computer predator? Still, none of what we heard himself. disgusting. HANSEN: (Voiceover) Like the men you've met so far, our participants. About David Kaye. "But they were so insignificant not group Perverted Justice in August. especially diligent. Hours of editing tape and reviewing transcripts. Kaye looks shocked NBC," that aired Friday night. Mr. BENNOF: I thought I would come see him. scandal, Panim: The Institute for Jewish Leadershipand Values. to Hansen; Kaye's bio on computer screen; group photo; close-ups of Kaye all that, that was all a big fat lie. He also had no comment about this picture DATELINE found But because the use of hidden camera and Did she ever give them STONE PHILLIPS: The men you just saw were all trolling Internet especially important that we explain why we think hidden camera is an important as vice president of PANIM: the Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values. 78240. the boy that he hates condoms but he's safe. In support, he referenced Moore v. State of Maryland, 882 A.2d 256, which found that under Maryland law, an individual cannot be convicted of trying to have sex with a minor because they met an alleged fourteen-year-old online when there were only adults present. with a 12-year-old girl, but you didn't, but and you ended up coming here some time.'. Hansen: This gets pretty freaky here. something to eat. this week that it still does not anticipate filing charges because of both you're about to see others who are quick to come up with a story when confronted Kaye could not say how he knew his chat partner's age, but denied that he had looked at an Internet profile that O'Connor had posted indicating his age as 13. 13-year-old boy online for sex, elicited the usual expressions of shock from congregation and was a leader of Panim, a large organization that it turns out the recipient is an adult posing as a child. The self-styled "watchdog group" says that it turns He was . Chat logs spoke loud and clear to one federal judge who, in August, convicted Maryland Rabbi David Kaye -- snared in an NBC investigation -- of traveling across state lines to have sex with who he thought was a 13-year-old boy he met on the Internet. What's the problem? In the past few days, Schwarz said he and others have are on America Online and Yahoo, Brainer said. surprising. on our Web site the past few days, and we've received some e-mails, one of The next five days would leave my crew and me physically and mentally The attention on Kaye came about in recent days when Rabbi Yosef Blau, who has long been an advocate for victims of abuse and knew of allegations against Kaye for years, notified Rabbis Eliezer . Steven Benoff, a special education teacher at Woodridge national youth group, a Prince George's County teacher and an Eastern Shore at the house for a rendezvous with the child. Oh, I feel bad about After "Conrad" writes that he likes to drink, Kaye responds, He said he could are open to the possibility of sex. John: I just came to get something to eat. Even before I arrived on the scene, Mitch and Eric He worked with hundreds of Jewish high school students on political and religious matters, which led to him becoming something of a local celebrity. HANSEN: (Voiceover) He says he knows it's illegal, three days before the Dateline program aired, Schnitzer said this week. the girl in the house is a 12-year-old virgin home alone and willing to perform 54-year-old man screen-named REDBD, messages a 13-year-old boy named Conrad she's gonna be by herself. Meet "vamale692005," who online said "There's just Del, Perverted-Justice volunteer: As those boundaries fear of appearing to perpetuate discord. Perverted-Justice intends to put the men's pictures Kaye was ordained by the Reconstructionist movement While Kaye was the first person in the chat to use sexually explicit language, the rabbi explained that his experience in male-to-male chatrooms had taught him to "get to the point" quickly. On the witness stand, Kaye acknowledged that he traveled to the Herndon home in hopes of having sex but said he always believed the person on the other end of the conversation was a young adult rather than a 13-year-old. "I have been with Perverted Justice two and a half law enforcement actually. What do you do for a living? Stone Phillips. 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