The QUEEN MARY gained the Blue Riband for the fastest crossing of the Atlantic from the NORMANDIE in 1938, but the Cunard Line always refused to accept the trophy. Christopher T Watts and Michael J Watts, My Ancestor Was a Merchant Seaman(Society of Genealogists, second edition with addendum, 2004), Simon Wills,Tracing Your Merchant Navy Ancestors(Pen & Sword, 2012), For quick pointersTuesday to Saturday Many of these souvenir passenger lists have disappeared over the years. It was an hour before fire fighting tugs arrived at the scene, and after four hours of futile effort the liner was left to burn herself out. These are undeniable facts. two express steamers became a reality in August, 1947. An unplanned lengthy mid-voyage stopover allowed the new owners to fly spare parts out to the ship and carry out repairs before resuming the course to Hong Kong Harbour, where she arrived in July 1971. In addition, the following types of lists were introduced used between 1835 until 1856: Agreements for Foreign Going or Foreign Trade ships (Schedule A) First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. The QUEEN ELIZABETH docked at Southampton at 11.am on 10th October. The SEAWISE UNIVERSITY (ex QUEEN ELIZABETH). The Americans demanded that the QUEEN ELIZABETH be brought up to the new standards of fire protection which would have to include the fitting of additional fire sprinklers and the boxing-in of stairways that could otherwise act as deadly draught tunnels in the event of fire. The remainder, lying on the harbour bed, was blown up as the wreck was a hazard to navigation. Agreements for Home Trade Ships (Schedule B)These agreements covered coastal and fishing ships. Queen Elizabeth and King George VI are received on board, the QUEEN ELIZABETH by Captain Ford on 28th July 1948, King George VI, Queen Elizabeth and Captain Ford with senior, officers on the starboard bridge wing of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. To find a ships official number go to theCrew List Index Project(CLIP) website, which has information about merchant ships from 1855 to 1913, or theMiramar Ship Indexwebsite (subscription required) which lists some categories of merchant and naval ships. To find the right range for your ship you will need to search using the first two or three digits of the number. The QUEEN MARY had left Southampton on 30th August 1939 on a liner voyage to New York with 2,328 passengers and remained there after her safe arrival, lying alongside Cunard's Pier 90. First Armored Infantry Division (15,125 troops, 863 crew). Undoubtedly the incomplete QUEEN ELIZABETH was the greatest dilemma facing John Brown's on the outbreak of war. In January 1957 the Cunard Line announced that it had carried 275,500 passengers across the Atlantic in 1956, an increase of 16,500 over its 1955 carryings. WebRMS Queen Mary: 80,774 GRT: 1936: Currently a Hotel ship 16 October 1946 (entered service) RMS Queen Elizabeth: 83,673 GRT: 314 m (1,031 ft) 1946 1972 (Destroyed by fire) Scrapped in 1974 (after sinking) 3 February 1962 (entered service) SS France (1962-1980) SS Norway (post-1980) 66,343 GRT(as built) 76,049 GRT (final size) Each fin had an outreach of 12 feet 6 inches and was 7 feet 3 inches wide. As well as state-of-the-art weaponry and communications systems, HMS Queen Elizabeth boasts five gyms, a chapel and a medical centre. Dimensions, 987' x 118' There are two main types of crew list for this period: Use the search box contained withinBT 98 to search by date and name of ships port of registry. However, the launching ceremony, which was being broadcast to the nation by radio, did not go without incident. to the Ambrose Channel Light Vessel off New York at 27.91 knots. Shuttle voyage from Southampton, Commodore James Bisset had the, On 6th March 1946, when the QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived back in Southampton, the Ministry of War Transport announced that the ship would be the first ocean-going passenger steamer to be released from His Majesty's Government service. leaves Southampton on her first ever commercial voyage. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. Other than for Southampton's Albion Band, the quayside was almost bereft of well-wishers. (the French Line) brought out the ILE DE FRANCE in that year, and it was known that it was planning to build a superliner (which would be the NORMANDIE). And so rota pilot F.G. Dawson boarded the, A signal for assistance was sent and - within the hour - the company, port and salvage officials were on board and in conference with Captain Ford. She also has the distinction of being the largest-ever riveted ship by gross tonnage. The QUEEN ELIZABETH entering the King George V Dry Dock. It was on 3rd February 1971 that the first engine trials were carried out and sailing day was set for Wedmesday 10th February. Cherbourg was chosen as the French port for the new ships as it had deeper water and a larger harbour than Le Havre. The new centrally-placed companionway is in place in this photo and there's a repaint where the ladders once were. Crew lists and agreements for Indian crew (or lascars) of British registered ships who enlisted on the Indian sub-continent are called Asiatic agreements. The Company injected $1 million into a new company called 'The Elizabeth (Cunard) Corporation' and held an 85% share. Our collection contains a sampling of what was originally produced and printed by the steamship lines. It is comparatively short - a long weekend by the express steamers or six and a half hours by air. Log books were deposited after each foreign voyage, or half-yearly for home trade ships. As a result only twelve boilers were needed for the QUEEN ELIZABETH, rather than the twenty-four in the Mary. He went on deck and saw three great ships - the two 'Queens' and the ILE DE FRANCE stationary. Quadruple-screw, 31 knots. It was decided to steam her all the way and a Chinese crew was flownto Florida, along with workers from Mr Tung's own shipyard. Seaman Lornie Peter Barnard. The starboard side of the boat deck on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Sir Percy Bates said that he liked to think that the Queens had, by their troop carrying capacities, shortened the war by a whole year. These are undeniable facts. Completed by the masters of ships engaged in the coastal or fishing trade, giving the voyages and crew for the preceding half year, and was to be filed within 21 days of the end of June or December. Queen Elizabeth leaving New York during her last voyage, 1968. pp. The QUEEN ELIZABETH in dry dock at Esquimalt, Vancouver Island, BC. The cruiser HMAS CANBERRA had lowered a pinnace which was cruising calmly around collecting bags of mail from each. Throughout the 'G.I. The Directors decided that work must stop on No.534 - the QUEEN MARY - at noon on Friday 11th December 1931. Tung personally visited his ship. The QUEEN MARY and the QUEEN ELIZABETH met for the last time when they were both at sea. This was the catalyst, but not the only cause, of the withdrawal of the two 'Queens'. Evangelist Billy Graham offered 2.1 million for her to become a floating bible school, and the United States Institute of Technology wanted her to become a floating university. While being constructed in the mid-1930s by John Brown and Company at Clydebank, Scotland, the build was known as Hull 552. The QUEEN ELIZABETH arrived back in the Clyde on 4th December 1965 and entered the Firth of Clyde dry dock at Greenock on 9th December. It was proposed that the Cunard Steamship Company and the Oceanic Steamship Company (the White Star Line) would both sell their North Atlantic fleets and assets, including '534', to a new company to be called Cunard - White Star Limited. Tung had acquired the vessel for $3.5million, and had insured it for $8million, led some to speculate that the inferno was part of a fraud to collect on the insurance claim. After several crossings with Joey on board, the crew began to grumble that the weather seemed to have taken a turn for the worse. It was controlled simply by the necessity to provide sufficient passenger accommodation and propulsion to operate a two-ship weekly express service across the North Atlantic. Coincidentally, just one week later, the EMPRESS OF CANADA was burnt out in Gladstone Dock at Liverpool. During the turnround in New York on her second G.I. WebThe National Records of Scotland holds agreements and crew lists under the reference BT 3, covering 1867-1913, for Scottish ships only. More than a year after the two 'Queens' had last met in New York, they sailed in company for the very first time in April 1941. The QUEEN ELIZABETH at anchor at the Tail of the Bank off Gourock. Following the First World War, Germany was building up her passenger fleet from 'scratch' in an era of new developments. [36], Ian Fleming set the climax to his 1956 James Bond novel Diamonds Are Forever on Queen Elizabeth. The forward Observation Bar on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Cunard's finances were in a very strong state whilst those of White Star were very poor. [9] Queen Elizabeth herself performed the launching ceremony on 27 September 1938. The Directors were faced with the almost unbelievable fact that the gross revenue of the Company for the year was calculated to be nearly 2.5 million down on 1930. The trend of development in the design of Atlantic liners since the coming of steam had been towards larger and faster ships; the larger ships being more comfortable as they were less affected by the elements, whilst the increased speed shortened the trip. The route between America and Europe had characteristics very different from others, said Colonel Bates. Only a little fuel remained after the transatlantic crossing, but a barge moved alongside to take it off as necessary. [15] Originally vetoing the idea of allowing her portrait to be hung in the ship when the liner was launched, Queen Elizabeth had now relented. The Official Number was allocated on registration, retained for the life of the ship, and was not reused. While being constructed in the mid-1930s by John Brown and Company at Clydebank, Scotland, the build was WebThe Queen Elizabeth is the newest addition to the Cunard Line and made its debut voyage in October 2010. Note: Largest ship built to date. Cabins designed for two passengers were equipped with. In New York she found herself moored alongside both Queen Mary and the French Line's Normandie, the only time all three of the world's largest ocean liners were ever berthed together. Shuttle' the two. The Americans demanded that the QUEEN ELIZABETH be brought up to the new standards of fire protection which would have to include the fitting of additional fire sprinklers and the boxing-in of stairways that could otherwise act as deadly draught tunnels in the event of fire. Under the terms of the Cunard Insurance Act, Cunard was obliged to start work on the second ship before the Act expired in 1936. Following his retirement, Sir James was in great demand as a lecturer and one day was telling some schoolchildren of the days when 2,000 lbs of bacon and 32,000 eggs were cooked for breakfast every day. GGA Image ID # 1d3753c0c2, RMS Queen Elizabeth Tourist Class Stateroom. [citation needed]. WebThe Cunard - White Star Liner QUEEN ELIZABETH 1938 - 1972 LIVERPOOL SHIPS ACCRA OF 1947 ELDER DEMPSTER LINES AUREOL ELDER DEMPSTER LINES BRITANNIC and GEORGIC CUNARD WHITE STAR CARINTHIA CUNARD LINE EMPRESS OF BRITAIN CANADIAN PACIFIC EMPRESS OF CANADA LOSS BY FIRE Rodaway Thomas. Alternatively, browseBT 98/564-4758to view all the ports covered for this period and the alphabetical ranges of ships for each port. 83,673 Gross Tons -- 2,314 Passengers. [6] She was moved to Port Everglades, Florida, and converted to a tourist attraction, which opened in February 1969. The 'Queens' experienced many difficulties when navigating the Solent due to yacht manoeuvres. With the aid of two local tugs the liner finally put down two anchors some six miles off Oranjestad, Aruba. On 28th May 1930, the Cunard Company told John Brown & Company of Clydebank that it had been selected as the builder of the first of the two new ships. Winter cruises from New York to the West Indies were poorly patronised and one was cancelled and replaced with an unscheduled Atlantic crossing. Over a two-hour period engine revolutions were increased from 100 (17 knots) to 154 (26 knots). Steam was raised on all boilers on 1st March. WW2 Service: Throughout World War II she served as a very valuable troopship, completing the long period of duty in March 1946. This information will help us make improvements to the website. An alternative was serving in the Merchant Navy, and the prospect of earning 2 a week in the forces, or being well paid in the merchant service proved to be a one-sided choice for many youngsters. In November 1948 a series of strikes dragged on for sixteen days, and on 2nd December the QUEEN ELIZABETH had sailed on the same tide as the QUEEN MARY and the AQUITANIA, a unique event in the history of all three vessels. The Cunard colours were painted over with battleship grey, and on the morning of 3 March, the ship quietly left her moorings in the Clyde and proceeded out of the river to sail further down the coast, where she was met by a King's Messenger,[15] who presented sealed orders directly to the captain. !!! The following afternoon, Tuesday 27th February, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was officially handed over to Cunard - White Star at 3.pm as she lay at anchor at the Tail of the Bank - untested and untried. The unreliability of statistics - or should it be said the ability to interpret them in several ways - is illustrated in the case of the UNITED STATES and the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Her master, Captain Ford, had attempted to avert the incident by ordering 'half-astern' on the starboard engines, but it was too late. WebLists can also include passengers who were family members of seamen. The salvage tug RESCUE arrived on 16th February as the SEAWISE UNIVERSITY continued her southward drift through the Windward Passage into the Caribbean. Speed varied between 7 and 11 knots, with the higher speed using 300 tons of oil per day. the title of each video, exactly as I have shown it above. Typically, if you can locate a seaman in a crew list you will find out his: You should not expect to find any detailed accounts of day-to-day life or the activities of crew or passengers. 1951onwards When a speed of 25 knots had been reached and maintained for one hour, the escorting warships were informed that the 'engine trials' had been satisfactory and that there was no objection to their standing down. The National Maritime Museum read the museumsMerchant Navy research guidefor advice on how to search for records there. It was named after Dr Gauss, a nineteenth century expert on magnetism, whose theories had enabled the Germans to produce their new lethal magnetic mines. With White Star now under Cunard's wing, Harland & Wolff at Belfast were also invited to tender, a position not previously open to them. At a boat drill on 27th February the assembled crew were told of Churchill's order that the ship was to leave British waters. You can, however, search for crew lists and agreements using the names of the seamen from 1881, 1891 and 1915 by ships number for all other years (see section 8.4 for more information). brides to the United States while Queen Elizabeth was overhauled at the Firth of Clyde Drydock, in Greenock, by the John Brown Shipyard. The first-class main lounge on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. He said that it had become a source of irritation to him and his colleagues on the board. He wrote in his private diary: "My own airm has always been to use '534' as a lever for bringing about a merger between the Cunard and White Star Lines, thus establishing one strong British company in the North Atlantic trade.". the dock from her, on the north side of Pier 88, is the NORMANDIE. WebHMS Queen Elizabeth during the Second World War 1939-1945. Of all the strikes and disputes that hit the QUEEN ELIZABETH, the most catastrophic was the 42-day seamen's strike of May and June 1966. The QUEEN ELIZABETH leaving the fitting-out berth at John Brown's. He wrote in his private diary: Towards the end of June 1936, in reply to a question in the House of Commons, the Chancellor Neville Chamberlain said: Early in July 1936 Stephen Piggot (the managing director of John Brown) wrote to Sir Percy Bates saying that Yard No.535 had been reserved for the new ship. There are a small number of log books in BT 98 and BT 99. With Japan and the United States entering the war after the debacle of Pearl Harbor on 7th December 1941, the QUEEN ELIZABETH was laid up at Sydney for seven weeks. When he asked for questions, one boy shot up his arm and asked: "How big were the frying pans?" The minimum rate for each cruise would be $185 or 66. The new ship was constructed on No.4 slipway by using 5-ton derrick cranes and a 10-ton tower crane. Perhaps the advent of the fully air-conditioned UNITED STATES prompted Cunard to take this measure. Between April 1941 and March 1945 the QUEEN ELIZABETH steamed 492,635 miles and carried 811,324 'passengers'. These are not two separate documents but one and the same thing; you may see them referred to simply as crew lists, or sometimes simply as agreements. WebRMS Queen Elizabeth History Pages. Crew lists for ships on foreign voyages (Schedule C) Only the berth at John Brown could accommodate the King George V-class battleships. [9] After two stops to refuel and replenish her stores in Trinidad and Cape Town, she arrived in Singapore's naval docks, where she was fitted with anti-aircraft guns, and her hull repainted grey. In July the ship was sold for $8.64 million to a company called Queen Inc. One week later work resumed on '534'. Sanders Samuel Donald . It occurred one day out of Ceylon and Dr Maguire remembered waking suddenly because the engines were slowing down. The QUEEN MARY found a buyerin the form of the City of Long Beach, California and she left Southampton on 31st October 1967 carrying 1,000 passengers on what was billed as 'The Last Great Cruise', involving a passage around Cape Horn. For the two meals a day that were provided there were six sittings, each of forty-five minutes. Apparently the torpedo had exploded well away from the ship. This awe-inspiring warship is capable of carrying up to 40 aircraft. On 26th July 1933, King George V and Queen Mary sailed into the new dock in the royal yacht VICTORIA AND ALBERT to perform the opening ceremony. She urgently needed to be drydocked to have the remains of her launch gear removed from her bottom plates which would then have to be cleaned and painted. They hold 70% of the surviving crew lists and agreements for this period. The first-class restaurant on the QUEEN ELIZABETH. Suggestions ranged from laying up the Elizabeth in a sheltered Scottish loch to selling her to the Americans. For $7.75 the QUEEN ELIZABETH was sold to a group of Philadelphia businessmen. It was agreed that the QUEEN ELIZABETH should spend twelve weeks on the Clyde (at her old wartime anchorage) plus ten weeks at Berth 101 in Southampton and in the King George V dry dock. Their high speeds allowed them to outrun hazards, principally German U-boats, usually allowing them to travel without a convoy. On a particularly rough crossing in April 1955, during which there were gusts of wind to 70mph and a heavy swell of up to 50 feet, nearly 100 passengers and members of the QUEEN ELIZABETH's crew were hurt. v3.0, except where otherwise stated, Merchant Navy ships records: crew lists, musters and log books, Friends of The National The Philadelphia businessmen still held a small interest in the new company and would lease the ship from Cunard for $2 million a year. Shuttle. Following the end of the Second World War, Queen Elizabeth was refitted and furnished as an ocean liner,[9] while her running mate Queen Mary remained in her wartime role and grey appearance except for her funnels, which were repainted in the company's colours. The RESCUE could not handle the ship on her own and so a second tug was summoned. Search for crew lists and agreements from 1951 to 1994 at: The National Archives search our 10% sample by ships number inBT 99. With the forward well deck omitted, a more refined hull shape was achieved, and a sharper, raked bow was added for a third bow-anchor point. A search on our catalogue of all the available crew lists is only practical for small ports. [16] As passenger numbers declined, the liners became uneconomic to operate in the face of rising fuel and labour costs. GGA Image ID # 1d3776ba5f. [6] The two liners were replaced with the new, more economical Queen Elizabeth 2. The Australians also needed what was left of their depleted army for their country's own defence in case of Japanese invasion. The ship's company was brought up to 465 and at 3.30pm on 13th November 1940 the, The QUEEN ELIZABETH had now been in the water for over two years since her launch on 27th September 1938. The work, Cunard estimated, would cost 750,000. After her launch the QUEEN ELIZABETH was towed round to the fitting-out berth where she would remain for the next sixteen months. The climate of southern Florida was much harder on Queen Elizabeth than the climate of southern California was on Queen Mary. The following day, 8th October, four hundred guests of the Cunard Company boarded the QUEEN ELIZABETH for the return passage to Southampton. The prospect to Cunard was just too daunting, and contributed greatly to the decision to dispose of the QUEEN ELIZABETH. She did, however, remain all the while under Cunard management with British officers and crew. The agreements were between master and crew and are also called Articles of agreement. CPO. It is estimated that around 4050% of the wreck was still on the seabed. 10, RMS Queen Elizabeth, The Beautiful Lady. GGA Image ID # 1d36e82385. The QUEEN ELIZABETH making her final arrival at Southampton at the. THE CUNARD WHITE STAR LINER QUEEN ELIZABETH. The first hint of competition from the airlines came in October 1951 and this resulted in speeding up the turn-round of the 'Queens' in 1952. Promptly at 2.pm the liner pulled away from the quayside. The QUEEN ELIZABETH (centre) and the QUEEN MARY (left). It can be appreciated that the jibe that Great Britain charged $100 a head to take soldiers to the battlefields of Europe was calculated to be extremely hurtful to Anglo-American friendship. The new fire regulations (that Cunard had not been able to afford) were incorporated, bringing the ship into line with the stringent standards required by the United States. Use the search box contained withinBT 98 to search by year and name of ships port of registry. While waiting for the messenger, the ship was refuelled; adjustments to the compass and some final testing of equipment were also carried out before she sailed to her secret destination. Under the command of Commodore Sir James Bisset, the ship travelled to the Isle of Arran and her trials were carried out. Two months later Cunard received a letter from Winston Churchill,[15] then First Lord of the Admiralty, ordering the ship to leave Clydeside as soon as possible and "to keep away from the British Isles as long as the order was in force". The QUEEN ELIZABETH in the Firth of Clyde (Inchgreen), The QUEEN ELIZABETH passing the Cloch Lighthouse. [25] However, the strategy did not prove successful, owing to the ship's deep draught, which prevented her from entering various island ports, her width, which prevented her from using the Panama Canal, and also her high fuel costs. The loyalty that she was given by her crew, the lifeblood of any ship, was reflected in the service given to her passengers who patronised the ship in vast numbers time and time again. In September 1959 an announcement was made to the effect that an independent committee of three, headed by Lord Chandos, had been set up to examine the Cunard Company's proposals for replacing the 'Queens'. 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