I still cant think of a reason to spend more money on the stratus 3 when the sentry is an option but others can prove me wrong. I think when @EricJ said "IT pro's", he was referring to children. It can us the box's antenna and ship's power. The Sentry gives better accuracy than the built in iPad receiver and allows for moving maps with geo-referenced plates. My kids started building and "programming" Raspberry Pi's in the second grade at school. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Is there something about products from California that concerns you? Really appreciate the insight as well. Whether its ForeFlight, Garmin Pilot, WingX, FlyQ or something else doesnt matter the right app is the one that works for you and your flying. Excellent idea. Connect and share routes with up to five devices on Sentry's WiFi network. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. And I wonder if Sporty's will sell it. I think so saw something on another board hinting at that the next model Startus will work with the other popular EFBs. And that CO monitor on others have seen a few videos of proof it's not reliable. That box looks pretty small for decent antennas. This is an old post now but I just came here to say that I love it when the Stratux people come out of the woodwork to shove their homebuilt junk down your throat. Yet some workplace limits are now down to <10 PPM of short term exposure in some areas (non-US). I keep the Stratus in the plane as a backup but have not used it in the past year. I use ForeFlight , and both Stratus and Sentry, advertise similar for ads-b in which is what I am most interested in,as I don't fly in questionable weather. No device could pick it up. This community is for discussion among pilots, students, instructors and aviation professionals. Top critical review. Check that against the full-size Sentry, which measures 3.25 by 2.25 by 1.25-still compact. I find they work the best with foreflight. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ), You can indeed view the actual level in FF in believe -- but you have to go looking for ita user settable alert threshold would be much nicer. 767 Tanker Flies With A Single Pilot At The Controls. Garmins GDL 50/51/52 can connect to the aera 796 or 660 portable GPS. Prezentarea Proiectului; Scopul Proiectului; Obiectivele proiectului; Activitile Proiectului; Aria de implementare; Principii Orizontale Use Sentry to: -Collect and aggregate errors from a number of platforms, languages and frameworks -Host an error monitoring solution on-premise or in a private cloud -Embed requests for end user feedback into your application Rollbar vs. Sentry Comparison Table Why Rollbar is a better alternative to Sentry Debug and resolve errors faster Stratus-like performance at a fraction of the price. Discussion in 'Avionics and Upgrades' started by BrianNC, Jul 11, 2018. The main reason for the Mini's slightly smaller footprint is it doesn't have an onboard battery. The key takeaway here is to choose your app first, and then buy the compatible ADS-B receiver since they all offer excellent performance. Apologies for the rehash!! Thanks for the info, the Stratus works with Foreflight but not with Garmin Pilot same as Sentry so for the money I guess I am going to give Sentry a try. While the Sentry Plus is charging the PWR LED will turn blue. Color me happy. As a pilot, you have to live with your aviation app on every flight (and in between them) whether you use an ADS-B receiver or not. Probably not, I think I'd pay a little more and get the Stratus. I have looked at the comparison page at Sporty's but would appreciate your viewpoints. The kit includes a gel dash mount, charging cable, 110V wall plug, and a pilot's guide. ForeFlight Sentry - The most full-featured portable ADS-B & GPS receiver. This is a nice way to get extra utility out of an older GPS or to have a full-featured backup navigator in the cockpit. Thomas. It works with both Garmin Pilot as well as Foreflight. The Garmin GDL 51 and 52, on the other hand, include a SiriusXM weather receiver for expanded signal coverage in and around the U.S. Mine bluetooths to my 796. There are even some pre-built kits available, although not all include a battery so read the parts list carefully. I think it probably raised the intelligence level in both states. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-alerts/Documents/SA_017.pdf, https://www.instagram.com/p/BlGrI_dg0GD/?tagged=stratus3, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. If you fly with a Garmin 796, 696, aera 660 or aera 500 series GPS, there is an additional consideration. Thanks for the information. Plus the Raspberry Pi hasUK heritage, so there's that +1 on the Stratux, especially for somebody with an IT pro in the household. I'm probably still going with the regular Sentry, but I don't know now. Consider how well-integrated the receiver is with the app, how easy to use the entire system is and what customers are saying about support. For a homebuilder wiring in an ADS-B receiver, or for a pilot who plans to keep his receiver plugged into the cigarette lighter, a built-in battery may not be necessary in fact, there are battery-free models you can choose. I want to know about CO waaaaaay before I'm at 50. I'd take that option in a New York second. For a VFR pilot, it may be overkill and you can save some money by choosing a non-AHRS model, but we still think theres value in it for situational awareness. There are also some additional features beyond the basic ADS-B/weather/GPS/traffic/attitude set. Sentry Sentry Plus It lists for $250..https://seattleavionics.com/merlin.aspx. The thing has worked flawlessly since, I love it. The CO monitor is a "nice to have", but wouldn't sway my decision, considering other CO monitors are available (and the aircraft I fly have them). Runs like a champ and for more than half off the competitors. Mine sits in a pocket on the sidewall just behind pilots seat. Your previous content has been restored. New ones are $649 with a battery. Anybody else feel like flying has changed their social life? Sentry Plus comes with a high-quality USB Type-C cable in the case. Some pilots get this backwards, chasing hardware around and switching between apps. And Stratus 3, Sporty's says, is poised to take advantage of new FAA ADS-B features when they come online later this year. Meet Sentry - The Next Generation ADS-B Portable Receiver Watch on http://flywithsentry.com BrianNC, Jul 11, 2018 #1 denverpilot Tied Down Joined: Nov 8, 2009 Messages: 55,440 Location: Denver, CO Display name: For the other models, it requires an adapter cable. -Robert Author Posted August 12, 2018 Yes, let's skimp on the one safety device that can keep you alive. Lower power consumption, more stable connection, still have internet access Can you still pair your ipad to your bluetooth headset if it is already connected to the gdl-50? Man I'm so torn on this same question. (You only have to worry about charge with an internal battery). Do you hate the lack of a battery or is it not that big of a deal? The one I got worked intermittently, And the sensors definitely didn't work anywhere near reliably. When I switched the power cord back, everything worked fine again. Portable weather receivers continue to be the most popular iPad accessory on the market. DISCUSSION: Am I the only one who doesnt think this is Two injured in plane flip at Silver Springs Airport, Press J to jump to the feed. Any insight is appreciated. The Sentry includes a carbon monoxide detector, helpful for alerting you to dangerous conditions (especially in winter). A full charge of a completely empty battery will take 10-12 hrs. For a minimal ADS-B In solution for ForeFlight only, Sporty's still sells the Scout at $199. If you can put together Legos, you can assemble a Stratux. It's easy to hate on aerial survey, but it wasn't all bad. they'll come up with a firmware soon enough if they haven't already to fix all this though. August 12, 2018 in General Mooney Talk. Merlin is just someone else assembling a stratux unit for you; which if you're not handy is a great deal. The price of the Sentry is much better,but I am wondering if anyone has used both? Some ADS-B receivers include an AHRS for backup attitude or synthetic vision. I strongly favor XM weather over ADSB, but that's another issue. While I know that a few have had issues with this unit, it's works flawlessly for me. It allows me to check ADS-B weather in flight and gives traffic advisories. But these differences pale in comparison to the apps. (Of course, they could have already added that by now.). Those include echo cloud tops, lighting, icing and turbulence forecasts. I plan on getting instrument rated, and when I begin training for that, I will eventually invest in a unit with AHRS. Some models, like the Stratus 3, include automatic flight data recorders so you can store your flights and replay them in apps like CloudAhoy or Google Earth. If you're heading to OSH, check it out at Sporty's pavilion . Battery life is another feature to think about. 3 ummjiga 3 yr. ago They are also the source of a commonquestion we get at iPad Pilot News: which weather receiver should I buy? With all the options (over a dozen at last count), its easy to get confused. CO detector nice or necessary? I have the sentry and it is amazing. If you're worried about assembly, you shouldn't be. 1 Item. I have a Scout, which is essentially a Sentry Mini. Sentry - $499 Stratus 3 - $699 Garmin GDL50 - $699 There maybe others that have interfaced to ForeFlight thru OEM interface such as: Stratux kit dual frequency Rcv, GPS, AHRS - $249. For about $150 in parts and a few hours of assembly, you can have a dual band receiver, and there are plenty of options to add GPS and AHRS. AHRS and WAAS GPS are inexpensive options. Just can't swallow that fact. They really are THAT simple. One important note here these ADS-B IN receivers are portable, non-certified units designed solely for the purpose of providing in-flight data to iPads, iPhones and other portable displays in the cockpit. You'll need to plug it in to any 5-volt USB-C power . Pros and Cons. The lack of internal battery is not a huge deal, and you get used to it, though you have to preflight your gear before heading to the airport to make sure you have a charged battery and the appropriate cable. What's the spookiest thing you've seen while flying? Upload or insert images from URL. CO Monitor sounds alarm if carbon monoxide is detected in the cockpit. View a variety of inflight data, including ground speed, altitude, ETE, distance to destination, and more. Stratux ADS-B Dual Band Receiver Aviation Weather and Traffic - Internal WAAS GPS, AHRS, Battery Pack, Suction Mount, Antennas, SDR (819) $389.99 Stratux ADS-B Dual Band Receiver Aviation Weather and Traffic - Internal WAAS GPS, AHRS, Battery Pack, Suction Mount, Antennas, SDR 819 Amazon's Choice in Aviation GPS Units 1 offer from $389.99 Stratux is not perfect by any means. And doesnt necessarily need to be Stratus or Sentry. My stratus stopped working today on my way back home. +1 on the Stratux, especially for somebody with an IT pro in the household. Some even include SiriusXM weather and entertainment features. Stratus 3 would turn off in flight after 30 minutes even though we were moving well beyond the auto shutoff speed. My Sentry used to disconnect about once per flight, the GDL has not disconnected a single time yet in about the 4 months I have been using it. In summary if you are just going to be VFR and want to keep it simple and cheap, the sentry mini is perfect. You're spending hundreds of dollars on flight time and it's literally the cheapest avionics upgrade you can give your airplane that's reliable. Oh, and my Stratus now plugs into my Aveo ADSB transponder. As the industry leader in fielded ADS-B solutions, Garmin continues to set the pace for development and deployment of this advanced air traffic management technology. Acas; Despre Proiect. See your aircraft position on ForeFlight's moving map display and innovative Plates on Map feature. Now looking at something new. If you have a Garmin GPS but you use another app, is it worth switching to take advantage of this? You can get all the parts for a fully-featured Stratux for well under $200 that includes AHRS, external GPS antenna, and battery pack. Click on the image for a larger image. Below is a comparison chart that delineates the features of the Sentry Mini, Sentry, and Sentry Plus receivers. Ideally active once it detects in motion, so it doesn't trigger on engine start with the canopy open. Well, I'm happy that you found your new home. If you dont have one of these devices, this feature wont matter. The product's name suits it well-the device is 3.3 by 2.3 by 0.6 inches and weighs 0.1 pounds. One important one is an attitude heading reference system (AHRS). The fact that it is open source means that often people buy parts that are not recommended and run into trouble. Stratus 3 vs Foreflight Sentry. There are also pre-assembled ones that you can buy for $50 - $60 more. 31 Aug 2018, 23:55. Oooh they got into bed with someone else. I live in the heart of Silicon Valley, surrounded by Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, Tesla, and Stanford University. Receivers like the Stratus 3 provide subscription-free weather for your iPad. The Raspberry Pi is very sensitive to power input. . The data collection and processing is non-trivial and that leads to the delay in the data being presented. You can get all the parts for a fully-featured Stratux for well under $200 that includes AHRS, external GPS antenna, and battery pack. FIS-B Via ADS-B Now let's take a closer look at FIS-B (Flight Information System-Broadcast). Can't beat that price though for the same function and a carbon dioxide detector. Once youve settled on an app and considered the Garmin option, its time to choose a specific ADS-B receiver. This is where it makes sense to compare specs, but its worth noting that almost every receiver on the market offers the two key features: GPS and subscription-free weather. You should seriously look at the Stratux as an option. Auto shut-off To preserve battery, Stratus 3 automatically powers down after your flight by detecting when it's idle or at less than a 3D GPS lock. Here's a video and at the link there is a comparison chart. This community is for discussion among pilots, students, instructors and aviation professionals. I live in the heart of Silicon Valley, surrounded by Google, Facebook, Apple, Intel, Tesla, and Stanford University. First choose your app, then choose whether you want VFR features or IFR features. The big difference between VFR and IFR would include a built-in AHRS, and perhaps SiriusXM Weather. With the built-in WAAS GPS receiver, Stratus allows you to view moving maps, track up displays and high resolution terrain maps in ForeFlight. Stratus ESG: Stratus ESGi: STRATUS 2i: STRATUS 3: STRATUS 3i: Subscription Free ADS-B Weather Requires a portable Stratus Built-in WAAS GPS Via Stratus ESGi Via Stratus ESGi : ADS-B Traffic - 978 MHz (UAT) Requires a portable Stratus Via Stratus ESGi Via Stratus ESGi : ADS-B Traffic - 1090 MHz (ES) X X Requires a Stratus 2 or 2S Via Stratus . And it must show 0 when it has a real reading of 1 to 29 PPM. Garmin GDL 88 With WAAS ADS-B Data Link Sensor sys AeroShell Oil W80PLUS - Box (6x 1 AQ Bottles, US-Q Content 5.7 . Stratux. Maybe the same function. This makes these truly no-compromise display units for the GDLs. Both offer Bluetooth connectivity as well as hardwired power and data; the portables require an optional power cable for that. The xgps uses Bluetooth instead of WiFi. It's $200 cheaper than the Stratus 3, has better battery life and it's smaller. The price of the Sentry is much better,but I am wondering if anyone has used both? Spot is another option, but no ahrs and i think you have to leave it plugged into usb. Free in-flight Weather. Pasted as rich text. It requires a subscription, but for no-compromise weather, it is a great option. A remote-mount version of the GDL 50, the GDL 50R, is also available. This also delivers additional weather features and satellite radio entertainment. I think one of the important deciding factors to consider is what EFB you have, as Scout and Sentry are ForeFlight only, whereas Stratus works with multiple apps. Go get some airtime with your dynon. I've had one real CO event and it was scary AF. I have a Sentry, Stratux, and stratus, and now a ADSB in solution within the plane itself. I bought a Stratus at Oshkosh, didn't cost me much coin. or simply buy a commercially assembled Stratux. Don't forget the Stratux as a cheaper alternative. Even aside from that (I think the high detection fail was fixed) its stated that it will alarm if "CO concentration reaches 50 PPM". These all-in-one devices stream GPS position, subscription-free weather, ADS-B traffic and optional backup attitude information to your iPad, changing it from a static chart viewer to an interactive in-flight tool. The Sentry is a 2.2-inch-by-3.3-inch-by-1.4-inch receiver that weighs 119 grams and includes dual ADS-B antennas optimized for 978 MHz and 1090 MHz frequencies and WAAS GPS receiver. However its tiny and cheap. Sentry is smaller and cheaper. In its most basic form, we suggest a two step process. Your link has been automatically embedded. There is another option for pilots who enjoy a little bit of electronics work. When buying the sentry there wasn't a sentry mini but i did look into the stratus 3. I got tired of having to worry about charging my Stratus2, so I bought a Sentry mini and plugged into the aux power. Sporty's. Pilots who swear by the Stratus ADS-B receiver now have something new to drool over with the release of the new Stratus 3 just in time for AirVenture. I don't really understand these comments. Every ADS-B receiver weve flown with has perfectly good reception for normal operations, and with the ADS-B network now complete, this is less of a problem than ever. NOTE: Sentry does not support charging from fast chargers. P.S. The GDL 50/51/52 can feed information to a portable GPS in addition to your iPad. Sentry is an open-source platform for workflow productivity, aggregating errors from across the stack in real time. They ripped off the name of Stratus but use every Reddit post to push their receiver and bash the Stratus. There are vids claiming the co sensor requires huge concentrations to alarm. For a renter or a pilot who prefers fewer wires, a built-in battery is an essential feature. I have both the Sentry and the GDL-50, and I prefer the GDL because it connects via Bluetooth instead of wifi, so I can be connected to internet and the GDL at the same time. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Stratux users are the social justice warriors of r/flying. Beyond these basics, there are a few other features to consider. Introducing the GDL 50, a portable device capable of receiving Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) traffic and weather, plus GPS and aircraft attitude information for display on select portables and mobile devices. Stay up to date with the latest articles and selections from our archives. Garmin's GDL-series portable weather and traffic receivers come in two versionsportable only (left) and remote mount (right). Do you know of anything that cures Prop 65 warnings? A weather receiver with a built-in AHRS can deliver backup attitude information or synthetic vision to your iPad. Thanks in advance. I'm sorry, I still don't understand. Apologies for the rehash!! Now looking at something new. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. And doesn't necessarily need to be Stratus or Sentry. https://ipadpilotnews-images.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/07161155/Stratus-3-on-dash-800.jpg, https://ipadpilotnews-images.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/07120009/logo.png, Copyright 2013-2022, Sportsman's Market, Inc. | maintained by, Time-saving ForeFlight tools for IFR pilots, Whats the best iPad for pilots 2022 buyers guide, New high-output USB charger powers 3 devices at once, ForeFlight adds new fuel types and other improvements in latest updates, New slimline iPad kneeboardsuniversal fit, low price, How to wirelessly update panel avionics with Garmin Database Concierge. Dont make this decision harder than it needs to be. Stratux is still an option. Well compare some of the most popular models. Show per page. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Right now the only one on eBay is Buy It Now listed at $510 (used). After i compared the 2 i couldn't justify spending 200$ more just for the flight data recorder when foreflight already has one. Our innovative ADS-B products are utilized in a wide range of aircraft from experimental homebuilt planes, GA aircraft and helicopters through high . Only you can answer that question, but ask yourself which device would be primary: iPad or Garmin? While the Sentry is charging the PWR LED will turn blue. Advertisement. Such features arent easily compared in a chart, but they impact your flying in a significant way. Its probably a bit deaf on receive but good enough. You can post now and register later. I think it cost me about $120 in parts to build it back then. Now with the sentry mini, it really depends if you want the backup AHRS or CO sensor. 500K developers use Sentry to get the code-level context they need to resolve issues at every stage of the app . March 2, 2018. My only complaint with the Sentry is that it cannot be configured to shut off automatically when external battery power is disconnected. Definitely a lot of shilling. It takes a fair bit of time to both generate the data and then make that mess of radar returns into meaningful data. Stratus 3 has a 2-year warranty. Sentry Portable ADS-B Receiver $499. Works on iOS iPhone or iPad running ForeFlight. Powered by Invision Community. Originally I built a stratux, used it for a few years and was satisfied until I started having trouble with it staying connected during flight. If you are just going to be flying VFR I cant see many reasons for the AHRS, CO sensor is nice but not needed. These include ease of use, reliability and customer support. Anybody else feel like flying has changed their social life? I tried to use a power cord that we had laying around the house and it caused all kinds of weird stuff to happen. That means there isnt really a bad option. +1 on the Stratux, especially for somebody with an IT pro in the household. The Sentry includes a carbon monoxide detector, helpful for alerting you to dangerous conditions (especially in winter). You should too! Because of the deep integration required between app and accessory, some ADS-B receivers are app-specific: Dont misunderstand us: there are differences between the various ADS-B receivers. I havent had any trouble with it, and it definitely shows more traffic than the stratux. You have to start here. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The Stratus can be. You cannot paste images directly. Stratus 3 and 3i can WiFi on GDL90 format so that it can be used on most Android APPs. If you're worried about assembly, you shouldn't be. Its too bad everyone else doesnt get it together and switch to Bluetooth. Then download the program to the SD card and put it in the slot. AFAIK, the math is the same as we use in microscopy to deconvolve 3-D images. I had a stratux and switched to sentry. I kept having disconnect issues, trouble seeing towers with the stratux. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Read more. Doesn't it seem like the mini isn't so mini once you add on an external battery (which you then have to find somewhere to mount it to)? Allows you to use 3G/4G LTE internet on your iPad while connected to Stratus 3. ), Detection and removal of artifacts (ducting, multi-path returns, insects, wind turbines, etc), Adjust for the data being smeared in volume for more distant returns, Do a sweep at a different angle and repeat the calculations above, Combine the data with other radar systems. Great way of trying to sell your GDL 50if you really had one for sale why preytell are you slamming Itami pimping another unit not even discussed on this site? Just bought the Dynon DRX portable Dual band ADSB Traffic & Weather Receiver. Think i just had the most embarrassing aviation moment today. The nice thing about having a fancy digital sensor is that it could let me know about 1 PPM. The FAA claims their transmission of ADS-B weather can be as much as 30 minutes delayed due to the nature of ADS-B multiplexing traffic and weather data together. Home CO monitors are even worse though, its a bit unfair to aim that all at FF you can sit at 65 PPM for 30 days before a CO monitor alarms at home. Stratus 3 is also designed with an Open ADS-B Mode to work with a variety of popular apps - both iOS and Android based. For ForeFlight users on the hunt for full-featured portable ADS-B, the Sentry is the best choice, in our view. Sentry 3.0 - give your feedback for the next version of sentry activate resolution quest x5000 times weekly quest. Talk to me, Goose. This is not a primary instrument, but in a worst case scenario, we would not hesitate to use it. This also delivers additional weather features and satellite radio entertainment. I use ForeFlight , and both Stratus and Sentry, advertise similar for ads-b in which is what I am most interested in,as I dont fly in questionable weather. RMAd and the new unit did the same thing. To help you compare features side-by-side, weve compiled this chart to show most of the popular options. They need to: You aren't explaining, in a way that I understand, how the data network is contributing to the delay in data presentation to the pilot. It sucks that you had a bad experience with Stratux but it looks like your Stratus 3 has some pretty major problems yet you give it a free pass. Remember, one tower is enough in most cases we usually see 5-10 towers at cruise altitude. Thomas. In most cases, you will have a decision after answering those questions. Stratux is an open-source software project that turns commercially available parts into full-featured ADS-B receivers. Currently the Merlin dual-channel battery-powered ADS-B, WAAS GPS, AHRS receiver is $199.99 + $14.95 US shipping and handling. They do not provide ADS-B OUT data and will not help you to meet the 2020 ADS-B mandate. 17 Aug 2018, 02:01. . Stratus 3 has a retail price of $699, $200 less than its predecessor. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. For more information, visit the links below. On my daily commute I pass by countless pharmaceutical companies producing cancer drugs that I use to treat my patients. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. On the other hand, Sentry is detailed as "Cut time to resolution for app errors from five hours to five minutes". Any insight is appreciated. about $200 and you're up and running Yep, been using my Stratux for a couple of years now and very happy with it, and the price tag. That just leads to confusion and frustration. Also note the Garmin 796/795 and aera 660 allow you to display full pitch and roll information from the GDL 50/51/52s built-in Attitude Heading Reference System (AHRS). I am curious to anything/new technology current for ads-b in.